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US politics are polarized — these two governors believe there’s a better way forward #TEDTalks

Two current US governors — Democrat Matt Meyer of Delaware and Republican J. Kevin Stitt of Oklahoma — trade notes on how to rebuild trust without partisan theater. In this special segment of “On the Spot” (TED’s rapid-fire Q&A format), they share thoughts on leading when people live in different realities, swapping outrage for outcomes…

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Two current US governors — Democrat Matt Meyer of Delaware and Republican J. Kevin Stitt of Oklahoma — trade notes on how to rebuild trust without partisan theater. In this special segment of “On the Spot” (TED’s rapid-fire Q&A format), they share thoughts on leading when people live in different realities, swapping outrage for outcomes and why we need to govern like neighbors, not enemies.

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  1. @thatboydez

    November 22, 2025 at 1:03 pm

    I wonder what one person is doing that

  2. @whatnthefashion

    November 22, 2025 at 1:05 pm

    No we dislike Stitt because of what he has chosen to do & be

  3. @inh4855

    November 22, 2025 at 1:07 pm

    GOP: “We want to rig the system towards the rich and elite, while breaking democracy and the balance of power while doing so.”

    Democrat: “We also want to rig the system towards the rich and elite but at least we won’t break democracy while doing it.”

    “Polarized” indeed

    • @isaacmattz204

      November 22, 2025 at 1:21 pm

      Confusing maga with Republican. I have argued with tons of republicans Trump is about as close to Republican as Harris

  4. @inh4855

    November 22, 2025 at 1:07 pm

    GOP: “We want to rig the system towards the rich and elite, and breaking democracy and the balance of power while doing so.”

    Democrat: “We also want to rig the system towards the rich and elite but at least we won’t break democracy while doing it.”

    “Polarized” indeed

    • @user-to9ge8ii9n

      November 23, 2025 at 3:39 pm

      ​@isaacmattz204 Confusing the Republican party with the power-broker Republican President — wild mistake to make, yeah.

  5. @arnoblokerije8837

    November 22, 2025 at 1:08 pm

    Doing ‘2 sides have value’, when one side has a running president that tries to start full on fascism, is fucking disgusting and you should all be ashamed of yourselbes

    • @isaacmattz204

      November 22, 2025 at 1:23 pm

      Mind you they are both state level representatives 😭😭 you realize it is a completely separate ball park right? Or did everyone miss 3rd grade social studies…that’s like yelling and a Jew and a Muslim for being friends because of the Palestine war

  6. @A-H-1010

    November 22, 2025 at 1:13 pm

    See this is amazing two governors from separate parties proving you don’t need to have an us verse them mentality when did the idea of debating disappear? Hate never helps

  7. @MrEvilLichen

    November 22, 2025 at 1:33 pm

    How can you both sides this when there is a fascist who uses crypto schemes to enrich himself in the office

  8. @justoneman3916

    November 22, 2025 at 1:33 pm

    Humanity(Democrat) versus inhumanity(Republican) can be polarizing.

    • @izaylev

      November 22, 2025 at 7:51 pm

      💯

    • @willc6577

      November 22, 2025 at 8:56 pm

      Attitudes like this, generalizations like this, are exactly what the gentlemen in the video are trying eradicate.

    • @justoneman3916

      November 23, 2025 at 2:17 am

      @willc6577 if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck. It’s not a generalization when they “all” act (vote) the same so don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

  9. @Phlotonic

    November 22, 2025 at 2:35 pm

    Humanity needs to be brought out in policy, otherwise it’s just good ole boying around

  10. @joeyg283

    November 22, 2025 at 3:12 pm

    The (D) or the (R) in front of a politician’s name does not mean anything anymore. Both parties are corrupted by $, and serve those that give them that $. Both sides try to make us fight, and divide us, on cultural issues, while the important economic issues that affect us ALL go un-talked about by these politicians and their corporate media outlets. Know how your politicians vote on these important economic issues, and if those votes harm your life, vote them out! United we stand, divided we fall.

    • @TheEleven420

      November 23, 2025 at 8:20 am

      Yep, culture wars issues are propagated to divide people over things as irrational as whether or not a group of people have the right to exist or if helping struggling Americans is “scary socialism.” Meanwhile, they have no problem bailing out the wealthy with subsidies and bail outs. They whine about their tax dollars being spent on “lazy people” who “don’t want to work” while cheering on those same tax dollars covering up the greed and arrogance of the wealthy while they pay wages that can barely allow people to live when working most of their lifetime. This line of thinking is just gross because first of all the majority of people are willing to work to support their families, but also the perpetuation of a system that rewards honest effort with the bare minimum of survivability breeds pessimism and drives the search for an easier way to find a more desirable outcome. Droving better economic outcomes for the working class will naturally drive better productivity and lower crime.

  11. @lenenerys7851

    November 22, 2025 at 4:06 pm

    “We can disagree without being disagreeable” Imagine what it would look like if we brought humanity out in eachother…

  12. @Mistah_Green

    November 22, 2025 at 5:55 pm

    The only real republicans or conservatives denounce Trump and most of what the GOP says/does. No one in their right mind or with any real values is a republican anymore because of how far gone most of the party is. Even fiscally or socially conservative people should understand that making policy for the many (the working class) is what’s most important, and should therefore back liberal policy despite their personal preferences. MAGA is a cancer. I already know all the arguments for why certain people are Republican vs Democrat. I don’t agree with plenty of democrats on plenty of things, but I hear them out because I know their hearts are in the right place. I try to do that with everyone, but sometimes it’s just not enough. Sometimes people are living in a completely different reality and talking will get us nowhere. I could give many examples. If you have any sort of positive sentiment towards Trump or Charlie Kirk or want to be associated with them, or even in the same party, you should look inwards.

  13. @izaylev

    November 22, 2025 at 7:48 pm

    I don’t hate him just because he’s a Republican… As a native Oklahoman who experienced difficulty with employment due to discrimination over anti-DEI policy, it’s quite enraging to hear him talk about people having a better life, when overall progression has been stifled. The crowd boo’d persistently when he passed during Thunder’s victory parade.

    People don’t hate him because he’s a Republican. They hate the quality of life he has created for the people.

    • @jayyyyy1m40

      November 23, 2025 at 11:08 am

      That’s exactly it. We don’t hate them for being Republicans. We hate them for the actions they’ve taken. Dem or Rep.

      All this lip service but where’s the quality of life?

  14. @tonypereira4398

    November 22, 2025 at 8:02 pm

    Bravo gentleman, bravissimo…!

  15. @coldjustus

    November 22, 2025 at 8:21 pm

    I hope they learned how Switzerland can make people happily pay for retirement and insurance IF THEIR WAGES ARE GOOD ENOUGH

  16. @EveNoir-m3m

    November 22, 2025 at 9:26 pm

    Wouldn’t that be something to send political opponents on field trips together ?

  17. @studentspoint27

    November 22, 2025 at 11:04 pm

    Please teach this first to your president trump.😂

  18. @muhammadhussain1091

    November 22, 2025 at 11:26 pm

    Hitler rules should be banned globally

  19. @Stacey-nw4oe

    November 23, 2025 at 1:22 am

    It’s not about republican and democratic, it is about rich verse poor. And the rich are winning. Both have money.

  20. @RamonQuiro7

    November 23, 2025 at 6:29 am

    This seemed genuine and heartwarming, but unfortunately this is far from the status quo. The president leads by example.

  21. @desiraegooch6454

    November 23, 2025 at 6:50 am

    Im glad people are waking up and seeing the Democrats and Republicans as non-negotiable and power hungry. Let’s create a humanitarian party.

  22. @jayyyyy1m40

    November 23, 2025 at 11:09 am

    Rich coming from the senator that actively is pushing privatized schools and gutting public education.

    • @user-to9ge8ii9n

      November 23, 2025 at 3:42 pm

      These are both governors?

  23. @jimturner4937

    November 23, 2025 at 12:13 pm

    We don’t hate you! We don’t like who you support or your policies.

  24. @jasondonnelly150

    November 23, 2025 at 1:18 pm

    The min a GOP politician will criticize or buck their own party we might have a chance but today the #1 GOP requirement is bending ur knee to Trump.

  25. @jasondonnelly150

    November 23, 2025 at 1:20 pm

    Don’t make it sound like voters and social media did this. The GOP is 100% what Trump says 100% of the time so an authentic conversation between individuals is moot.

  26. @anthonyfisher6051

    November 23, 2025 at 2:43 pm

    The idea of respectable governance and being cordial to the other side is excellent, but it’s rarely practiced after being preached anymore.
    Gov Stitt wholeheartedly endorsed Trump after DeSantis dropped out of the presidential race, and he approves and supports Trump‘s policies, which are hurting the overwhelming majority of American people, including and especially those in Oklahoma.
    This is a clear case of talking out of both sides of your mouth with Governor Stitt, utter hypocrisy.

  27. @user-to9ge8ii9n

    November 23, 2025 at 3:44 pm

    I think it started when I got called a murderer for believing in health care. Then when my friends were told they shouldn’t exist as trans or gay. And then others were told their lives had no value because of their skin.

    But yeah, no, definitely both sides are totally to blame. 🤦‍♂️

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