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As DeepSeek triggers a technology selloff, the company seems to have come out of nowhere. Bloomberg’s Rachel Metz explains DeepSeek and what is happening in the tech industry. ——– Like this video? Subscribe to Bloomberg Technology on YouTube:   Watch the latest full episodes of “Bloomberg Technology” with Caroline Hyde and Ed Ludlow here:  …

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  1. @CheekyBird790

    January 27, 2025 at 3:14 pm

    “techniques” translates as “corporate espionage” and “IP Theft”! If this had come out before November 2022, then I would be impressed!

    • @hxi7141

      January 27, 2025 at 3:32 pm

      CIA bot at work here. Did you even read the academic paper Deepseek published? Actually, do you even read

    • @johnnyq4260

      January 27, 2025 at 3:48 pm

      Tell us what they stole. It’s open-source.

    • @CheekyBird790

      January 27, 2025 at 4:09 pm

      @@johnnyq4260 as with all “miracles” of Chinese Technology, the foundations are based on rampant IP theft, look at Huawei who plundered Nortel’s tech since the mid 90s. Now Nortel barely exists. While the code might be open source, the chips or backend is likely based on stolen or reverse engineered tech. If DeepSeek was truly homegrown, the R&D would have cost heaps more.

    • @SDOfficer

      January 27, 2025 at 6:31 pm

      @@johnnyq4260 The hardware is certainly not open-source! When a thief genuinely steals from you wouldn’t you get upset? China blocks a bunch of North American things like YouTube. I think North America should do the same for all things designed in China!

  2. @Enigma-t6n

    January 27, 2025 at 3:26 pm

    It is not ” Came not of no where “.

    For media that dwindles too much catering for broke redditor crypto bros & usual trumpet loner political grifters, it might look sudden. Maybe for once see the world beyond the murican world Border knowledge aka can only point canada, mexico ???? in entire Atlas.

  3. @matt.stevick

    January 27, 2025 at 3:29 pm

    deep seek has access to 50k h100s
    this is all biden administration’s doing

  4. @Wvdoctorz68965

    January 27, 2025 at 3:34 pm

    Please stop with the media sensationalism. It seems most of you do not understand how AI works and how to develop them.

  5. @keyser021

    January 27, 2025 at 3:37 pm

    Cool nose ring dude, you seem wise and trustworthy.

  6. @davidl242

    January 27, 2025 at 3:55 pm

    Was China suppose to share this information with the West lol? The fact they even shared this…and it’s open source… I’m more skeptical on what else it’s in the works. Regardless of what you believe about the cost of the model, but the more efficient training method of AI is undeniably smart and shows brains over bronze is still the way in the so called “chip war”.

    • @gus473

      January 27, 2025 at 8:02 pm

      The phrase is, brains over brawn. You know, like the paper towels with the moustache guy on it, Brawny.

  7. @BRUHMMM

    January 27, 2025 at 4:07 pm

    They got the technology from Donald Trump. Kamala warn us about during the debate. Go and watch the debate.

  8. @privatenumber2299

    January 27, 2025 at 4:13 pm

    ????Want to really make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$? Hire East Asian brains, not South Asians’. :).

  9. @imrantiger5439

    January 27, 2025 at 4:18 pm

    ???? ZI✡️NIS✝️ LOBBY ????

  10. @zhang_han

    January 27, 2025 at 4:25 pm

    It feels like that because western social media is not really built to analyze Chinese text for information, and so fails to recommend any news from there (I mean even if they did recommend it it would still be difficult for many people here to read).

    So there’s a form of a news filter here that’s just due to the recommendation engines not being able to check content across language.

  11. @Jim-nt7xy

    January 27, 2025 at 4:28 pm

    Unlike India which likes to talk up a good game, China does not talk, but rather it just goes to work and produce.

    • @dotagedrain7051

      January 27, 2025 at 6:01 pm

      India don’t even have enough toilets… please don’t compare India to China.. compare them to stone age

  12. @makedredd299

    January 27, 2025 at 4:46 pm

    If it’s anything like the release of the #Coronavirus, then it probably won’t last for longer than 3 years.

  13. @DanielleA2023

    January 27, 2025 at 4:51 pm

    CONSPIRACY culture is the right wings new cancel culture BS

  14. @PelonMusk

    January 27, 2025 at 5:27 pm

    6 million bucks is what it should cost to develop software not some nonsensical number like 5 billion LOL the entire industry is a total scam.

  15. @vegan.soyboy

    January 27, 2025 at 5:30 pm

    calm down…this sounds like BRICS…lots of soundbites…and no substance

  16. @SDOfficer

    January 27, 2025 at 6:34 pm

    Remember Nortel? No? That’s because China hacked the heck out of them and took all their IP to advance Huawei tech. If you use things designed in China then you’re likely supporting IP theft.

  17. @larryCatford

    January 27, 2025 at 6:55 pm

    united states AI fraud is about to go burst !

  18. @georgeqi602

    January 27, 2025 at 7:15 pm

    The great equalizer is algorithmic efficiency. The lain people just talk nonsense.

  19. @raymondlee8160

    January 27, 2025 at 7:28 pm

    Not come from nowhere, just that you guys don’t pay attention what happens in china.

  20. @steedlei1

    January 27, 2025 at 7:43 pm

    try ask what is Winnie.. then itself will freak out and keep refreshing forever…. 🙂

  21. @fukyu2123

    January 27, 2025 at 7:50 pm

    Everything seems to come out of nowhere if you’re ignorant

  22. @flowersthorns-r4i

    January 27, 2025 at 7:52 pm

    BIG TECH CREATED A FAKE EXPENSIVE DRAWN OUT AI DEVELOPMENT CURVE TO KEEP INVESTMENT MONEY STREAMING IN ❗️

  23. @flowersthorns-r4i

    January 27, 2025 at 7:54 pm

    AND A INDUSTRY WIDE GOVERNMENT APROVED PRICE FIXING SCAM

  24. @Ask-a-Rocket-Scientist

    January 27, 2025 at 7:56 pm

    I’ve been using it for months.

  25. @regolith1350

    January 27, 2025 at 8:16 pm

    I think it’s 80% PR spin. If I put on my tinfoil hat, I would guess that:
    1) DeepSeek has far more NVIDIA chips (acquired illegally) than they acknowledge.
    2) The “super cheap model development” story is basically a lie, and designed to explain how they could achieve this “breakthrough” on so few chips. I think they spent FAR more money than they admit.
    3) The story about them being hacked is a ruse to cover up the fact that they can’t handle the user traffic.

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