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Bob 2
January 10, 2023 at 10:44 pm
Love this dude. Bring him back.
“You might die” is just amazing.
Cheef Sosa
January 10, 2023 at 10:49 pm
Genjutsu support
Reebs
January 10, 2023 at 10:51 pm
The dancer never changes for me, she always turning counterclockwise
farrex0
January 10, 2023 at 10:53 pm
Something very interesting about the white and gold or black and blue dress, that I was hoping he would touch on. And I rarely see people mention, when it is brought up. Is that while the real dress is black and blue, the image is not. You actually look at what those colors are in photoshop when you use the color picker, is that the dress is very desaturated light blue and dark gold. So the people that see it black and blue, through context “correct” the colors of the image, while the ones that see it white and gold are seeing the colors of the image closer to what the actual colors of the image actually are.
Not saying either of those got it right, but it is something very interesting to consider when speaking bout optical illusions.
UXXV
January 10, 2023 at 11:20 pm
Love this! He is like Jerry Seinfeld does science!
Mileena’s Left hip
January 10, 2023 at 11:22 pm
Is this dude Latino or white?
LasermanSteam
January 10, 2023 at 11:30 pm
Wait the wagon wheel thing IRL isn’t universal? I thought everyone had that
Damien Couturee
January 10, 2023 at 11:34 pm
Another kind of interesting thing is how everyone is very good at instantly counting small amounts. Like if there’s 3 Skittles left in a bowl you don’t count 1 then 2 then 3, you just look and immediately know it’s 3. And that applies to all numbers under 7 or 8ish. The reason for that that I’ve heard is similar to the pareidolia where it’s better to see a face that isn’t there than to not see a face that is there. The reason for the numbers again goes back the prehistoric times and it’s because there’s a HUGE difference between 1 or 2 or 3 lions chasing you, but not much of a difference between 11 or 12 chasing you. Just another thing we’ve adapted to quickly and accurately analyze the important things we needed to survive
Tevin Vezina
January 11, 2023 at 12:03 am
This guy is smart smart.
Shared Knowledge
January 11, 2023 at 12:04 am
Nicely done. I like this format better than peeling tape off to reveal questions.
Steve Johnson
January 11, 2023 at 12:08 am
Great episode!
Troy Hester
January 11, 2023 at 12:11 am
Not sure I buy the wagon wheel effect explanation that brains have a ‘frame rate’. Admittedly I am no expert, but I am an engineer, and I have a theory: the wagon wheel effect happens in person because the light source (street lamps, etc) is strobing at a similar rate, causing ‘aliasing’. More and more lighting sources (like LEDS and Flourescents) actually turn on and off at 60 or 120 Hz or even higher in some cases. I’ve experienced this myself. If there are cases where people see the wagon wheel effect in bright sunlight, then I’m wrong and there’s something stranger that I can grasp going on.
James Pratt
January 11, 2023 at 12:14 am
A man who specializes in visual input, refuses to look at the camera (make eye contact with his audience). Weird.
tub3scr3am3r
January 11, 2023 at 12:29 am
for real? He actually has “the dress”? 😳
John
January 11, 2023 at 12:31 am
I see the dress as light blue and a miss green
alestane
January 11, 2023 at 12:47 am
10:00 You can get it without a camera depending on the type of artificial light you use. Classic light bulbs do not give uniform light, the intensity varies because the electrical current is periodic. This is enough to get the same effect. I saw that playing with spins as a kid. To prove a brain frequency effect, you would have to make sure your source of light is not periodic.
ZedWithBlue
January 11, 2023 at 12:49 am
bro fact checked reality
Chicken Bot
January 11, 2023 at 12:49 am
I do hope to see more of this guy
PUFFINGONCLOUDS
January 11, 2023 at 12:58 am
That dress is clearly black and blue. Those other people are color blind or something 🤔
Alfonzo Smith
January 11, 2023 at 1:00 am
Outstanding and fascinating video.
H
January 11, 2023 at 1:02 am
Please more of him! And the language and accent expert
Ralph111417
January 11, 2023 at 1:12 am
By looking away and then looking back at a ‘ticking’ style second hand on an analogue time piece, it can often appear frozen. i.e. a second lasts longer than a second. I heard some theory it’s to do with your brain compensating for the ‘blink’ when you move your eyes quickly, and fills in the black frames with a static image. But that implies your brain knows exactly where the second hand is before you see it, which is impossible.
Nicco Reggente
January 11, 2023 at 1:16 am
One of my favorite instructors of all time. When I was a student at NYU, I took his sensation and perception class and it altered my entire life trajectory. Watching this was a fantastic reminder of how efficiently he communicates these sometimes dense concepts merely by exuding his palpable passion about how insightful these illusions can be with regards to the way the brain is creating models of external inputs.
No_One 32
January 11, 2023 at 1:16 am
He blinks a lot.
Shaun Afandiyev
January 11, 2023 at 1:25 am
Part 2 please!
jama211
January 11, 2023 at 3:06 pm
He didn’t explain the dress, he just re-stated the question and then moved on… really weird
Rei Han
January 11, 2023 at 3:08 pm
The dress photo. The first time I watched the video I saw it black and blue but when I rewound the video back, I saw it white and gold 🤯🤯🤯 This is crazy
Nikitas Kourkoulis
January 11, 2023 at 3:24 pm
Dear Pascal, I am sorry to break it to you but optics does not mean light in greek. Optics is indeed a greek word and it means visual. The greek word for light is “φως” and sounds like “phos”.
Sarah
January 11, 2023 at 3:58 pm
So every time I see a cute little face on my bathtub or outlet it’s my brain thinking someone’s out to kill me 😮
LaGGy
January 11, 2023 at 4:03 pm
What is my red isn’t your red
Jamie Harbinson
January 11, 2023 at 4:21 pm
DAMMIT – I KNEW THE DRESS WAS BLACK AND WHITE – IM NOT CRAZY 😮
hepcatliz
January 11, 2023 at 4:57 pm
ok I think I said “ohhh so THATS how that works?!” on every question. Great video!!
Ilpo Ratinen
January 11, 2023 at 5:00 pm
The wagon wheel effect is very real even outside of cameras and screens, but only in electrical lighting. Depending on lamp type, the brightness can fluctuate with the frequency of the AC used to power the lamp. These moments that are better illuminated contribute more to our perception than the dimmer moments in between, resulting in a kind of “framerate” of e.g. 100 Hz with 50 Hz AC. In natural light it shouldn’t occur, but if it is does then the mechanism is completely different.
Cees Veerman
January 11, 2023 at 5:08 pm
Only looking at the thumbnail I thought this was the Pineapple-Pen guy
Mallie B.
January 11, 2023 at 5:14 pm
Pascal!! The best professor I had at NYU! Can’t express in words how happy I am to see him in-front of more eyes. The best of the best
Maxxine
January 11, 2023 at 5:44 pm
Loved this video! Thank you
Ruth Nwofor
January 11, 2023 at 5:50 pm
The sigh when he said grad school 😂😂😂😂
Mongo Slade
January 11, 2023 at 6:30 pm
Lost me at dog masks bro
genbernier
January 11, 2023 at 8:56 pm
Is he Dave Grohl’s brother or this is other optical illusion?
qeti chikashua
January 11, 2023 at 8:58 pm
This guy is amazing, you can tell he has soo much to say just by him talking soo fast and trying to fit his thoughts in the words. Great episode!
wn 1906
January 11, 2023 at 9:44 pm
i like his blue shirt
Rachid van Heyningen
January 11, 2023 at 10:49 pm
7:37 “BY A SAMSUNG CAMERA” lol, you see wat chaos can arise when people use anything else than an iphone…
Jon
January 11, 2023 at 10:56 pm
He’s not a neuroscientist
Shelby Johnson
January 11, 2023 at 10:59 pm
This video really messin w my eyes yall
Tim Day-Lewis
January 11, 2023 at 10:59 pm
Thank you. I can finally show people that it WAS in fact black and blue….. *relieved sigh*
FairbrookWingates
January 11, 2023 at 11:19 pm
For the first time I see an image of The Dress that actually looks blue and black to me. To this day, the original image looks white and gold. No matter the truth, I can not see the original as blue and black. This photo he’s holding up though looks blue and black. I assume it’s a copy of the original picture that went viral, so I wonder if having it printed out and then shown through another camera lens is making the difference.
Jier
January 11, 2023 at 11:22 pm
I see the dress as light blue and dark gold….
Samuel Carvalho
January 11, 2023 at 11:42 pm
I wish these episodes were an hour long of these experts sharing their knowledge, I can never get enough of them!
Wig Wag Studios
January 12, 2023 at 12:09 am
3:45 video not in 60
Dominic Bartley
January 12, 2023 at 1:10 am
User, Esper, Lessssburnian
Max Trash
January 12, 2023 at 5:19 am
It’s still black and blue 😢
Prymitive
January 12, 2023 at 5:21 am
no matter how hard i try the woman only spins one way
Lanz Cordero
January 12, 2023 at 6:00 am
“Your mind has a certain frame rate.”
Yup, we’re definitely in a simulation.
The Swagnificent Mick
January 12, 2023 at 7:31 am
I have visual snow, I’m curious how that affects illusions!
Red Elf Shot the Food
January 12, 2023 at 8:13 am
I dunno. I think I’m going to see Colonel Sanders with his tie. The tie image supersedes the new child perspective data.
sammy
January 12, 2023 at 8:27 am
I have NEVER been able to see white and gold in my life. When he was moving the printed picture around, I feel like I could for split-seconds at a time. Also, I am a night owl, like he says. Neat!
Всеволод Владимиров
January 12, 2023 at 9:18 am
“I’m going to ruin ducks for you” is a sentence I never thought I’d hear anyone say to me
TheBurek
January 12, 2023 at 11:42 am
Did they seriously attempt to show off “60 frames per second” in a 24 frames per second video?
Zuccie_x_WolfxX
January 12, 2023 at 12:56 pm
love this guy already – this is one of the more informative tech support episodes.
Zuccie_x_WolfxX
January 12, 2023 at 12:56 pm
Pascal!! The best professor I had at NYU! Can’t express in words how happy I am to see him in-front of more eyes. The best of the best
Scifikimmi
January 12, 2023 at 12:56 pm
The wagon wheel in real life one. I get that with ceiling fans sometimes.
Wisteria
January 12, 2023 at 1:46 pm
fav.episode💞
Ansh Mundra
January 12, 2023 at 1:51 pm
had him as my prof last sem for my data science class. hands down, he is one of the best at NYU. his passion for teaching and learning shines through in every second.
Tote Sprachen leben länger
January 12, 2023 at 3:11 pm
There’s no arrow in the FedEx logo. There’s only Guy Fawkes watching Willie Mays catch a fly ball while an armored assault vehicle rolls past.
(Credit: xkcd)
Lindsey Mercuria
January 12, 2023 at 5:19 pm
Ouch. The very first image gave me an instant headache and nausea.
The vid needs a PSE warning.
Lance Beckman
January 12, 2023 at 6:54 pm
That dress has always looked blue and gold to me
Arian Emampour
January 12, 2023 at 7:10 pm
21:25 The payoff matrix is in favour of false positives 😮 this is also very important in psychology, interesting
Kailob Moore
January 12, 2023 at 8:15 pm
I always saw the dress as like a light blue and ruddy brown color so I never understood what people were talking about all those years ago xD
Also uhhh I didn’t know other people didn’t see the wagon wheel effect in reality… Am I okay xD
Kat.
January 13, 2023 at 12:02 am
Same for both XD I have a neurodivergent brain. Maybe you do too!
emma wilx
January 12, 2023 at 8:18 pm
Fav NYU professor!!
Cory Inman
January 12, 2023 at 10:30 pm
Love to see my friend Pascal on WIRED! Such a great teacher!
Kat.
January 13, 2023 at 12:01 am
That was amazing and Mr. Wallisch has such a pleasant and friendly way to explain things. 😀 I knew a lot about illusions already but some things were new and with others I didn’t know the brain workings behind them!
Andrew
January 13, 2023 at 12:03 am
Wait – do some people not experience the wagon wheel effect in real life? I thought everyone did?
Elapsed
January 13, 2023 at 12:41 am
I can make the wagon wheel effect happen to my brain in real life. And in both cases I can cause it to change and spin the other way.
Kyran Smith
January 13, 2023 at 1:10 am
Elon Musk’s brother
Jacob Creutzfeldt
January 13, 2023 at 1:27 am
If you enjoyed this, go search for Donald Hoffman’s TED talk 🙂
thoth tahuti
January 13, 2023 at 8:54 am
I thought everyone saw the wheel go backwards after a certain speed… and that dress has never been white and gold, it’s always been blue and black…
Tony Goodwin Jr
January 13, 2023 at 10:02 am
My brain must be dumb cause i didnt see a good many of those illusions. Whats up with that?
John Doe
January 13, 2023 at 10:03 am
THE MAN HAS THE DRESS!
Heretic Tom
January 13, 2023 at 10:05 am
That was a great video 😁😁
Kidd Gamer
January 13, 2023 at 10:48 am
Thank you! This is easily the best series on wired
rhoda
January 13, 2023 at 11:26 am
In response to the last one, could using therapeutic techniques like CBT and ERP lessen the brain’s ability to find false positives ie limiting ‘what if’ thinking? And could that actually be dangerous?
Chris931
January 13, 2023 at 12:06 pm
I got so messed up as a small child when first hearing about colorblindness. It started me thinking about perception of color in different people. My still unanswered question is:
If I see a green meadow and a blue sky, is there any way to tell if others see it in the same colors? Since the brain INTERPRETS wavelengths of colors it could be possible that different brains interpret them differently. So maybe others are seeing the sky as red and the meadow as yellow but were taught all their life to call it blue resp. green.
This freaks me out!
SWISS1337
January 13, 2023 at 12:58 pm
Beta motion.. Doesn’t effect me, as I only see in Sigma motion – some kneckbeard probably
Also I physically can’t see the dress as gold and white, it’s never been anything but blue and black.
DriftKingNL
January 13, 2023 at 1:08 pm
An average person would’ve blinked around 330 times during this entire video.
The guy in the video, does 330 in like 2 minutes.
Danni Antagonist
January 13, 2023 at 1:27 pm
So good 😍
Ignatius Jackson
January 13, 2023 at 1:34 pm
That lady is obviously rotating clockwise. “This video is dumb,” I thought. “I’ll give it one more chance…” then I recieved motion-induced blindness. “THIS IS THE COOLEST VIDEO EVER.”
Erin Donovan
January 13, 2023 at 3:09 pm
more more more! this was fascinating
Ignatius Jackson
January 13, 2023 at 3:24 pm
For the Müller-Lyer II illusion, the bottom line seems only as “shorter” as the lines used to craft the “arrowheads” are thick. In other words, it depends on whether the length of the “line” includes any or none of the line(s) used to craft the “arrowhead”. My brain wants me to remove the WHOLE arrowhead, thus leaving that line only a sliver shorter. Also, in mathematical theory the “shortest” line here would in fact be the longest, because it goes on in both directions infinitely! In short, the illusion didn’t get me, but I am still confused.
Ignatius Jackson
January 13, 2023 at 3:44 pm
Wouldn’t it be totally possible to build a 3-D representation of the Penrose Stairs using the same physical principles as an Ames Room? Furthermore, would that be able to qualify as the world’s largest Ames room even if it’s in open air? I mean, technically it’s “room.” GET ON THAT, SCIENCE BITCHES!!!
Aland
January 13, 2023 at 3:55 pm
pen pineapple apple pen
Cristin Anderson
January 13, 2023 at 7:31 pm
Every time the dress is brought up, I never hear anyone having the same opinion as me: in that picture, it looks like a lighter blue/periwinkle and brown. I know the dress is black and blue but I don’t see white and gold at all.
JohnsonsBox
January 13, 2023 at 8:48 pm
This man is a joyride of mental stimulation
Lashan
January 13, 2023 at 9:33 pm
Wish we had professors like this at my uni
FriskoDisko _
January 13, 2023 at 9:52 pm
I didn’t need an existential crisis on a Friday, yet here we are
Mikhail
January 13, 2023 at 11:01 pm
*8:18 Am I the only one that sees that dress as Turquoise color, and not blue nor white?*
Sandy Del rosario
January 14, 2023 at 12:01 am
DOG MASKS
Fabio Lacap
January 14, 2023 at 12:07 am
If I can’t even trust my own brain, who can I trust?
ashwee
January 14, 2023 at 12:13 am
Oh my gosh I had him, my absolute favorite professor of all time.
Invox
January 14, 2023 at 12:17 am
Ok, a couple of things:
The brain does have a frame rate. The max is about 180 fps (I think). This was tested on American fighterplane pilots some time ago.
The Moon illusion is cause by the curving of atmosphere. Closer to the horizon the water molecules follow the curvature of the Earth and create a form of “lens” that makes the Moon look bigger… So, the same illusion would not be possible on the Moon because it has no atmosphere.
rjkbuny
January 14, 2023 at 12:52 am
I don’t get it, even if I block off the cylinder and look at A/B individually, they still look like different shades of gray…
Raziel Kayn
January 14, 2023 at 3:26 pm
Light blue and goldish brown.. 🤔
SirPleasee
January 14, 2023 at 3:31 pm
I love the, “taken by a Samsung Camera”
Ethan Howard
January 14, 2023 at 3:48 pm
I’m a morning person but I always see black and blue
Tyler Grant
January 14, 2023 at 4:22 pm
I was not satisfied with the dress answer because it’s not just my perception of the dress that sees it’s as white and gold. You can sample the colors in photoshop and look at them outside of this context and it’s absolutely not black and blue. It’s like brownish gold/grey. Not even CLOSE to the original look of the dress. So yes, the dress may genuinely be black and blue, but that image very clearly is NOT black and blue.
borednow
January 14, 2023 at 4:39 pm
is this guy some kind of neurodivergent? the way he talks and blinks his eyes makes me wonder…
Robert Haynes-Peterson
January 14, 2023 at 5:06 pm
The Wagon Wheel Effect: There’s an easy way to recreate it IRL: lie on your back looking up at a slow or medium moving ceiling fan. Then either blink at different rates or wave your hand in front of your eye/eyes at different rates. You can control whether the fan looks as if it’s moving forward or backward. Fun way to kill a few minutes!
Austin Hernandez
January 14, 2023 at 5:18 pm
I don’t care what color the actual dress is. The color of the PHOTO is white and gold.
Jaffy
January 14, 2023 at 5:20 pm
bro the dress changed colors in the picture when i looked away lmao.
Rocco M
January 14, 2023 at 6:03 pm
That was like zero warning before he screwed with ducks 😧
LG1201
January 14, 2023 at 6:41 pm
Does anyone know what the shirt he’s wearing it is called and where I could buy it? 😅
My Waifus Trash
January 14, 2023 at 6:43 pm
Will always be white and gold for me. I remember this dress disrupted my high school
Ali
January 14, 2023 at 6:54 pm
Well, he definitely ruined ducks for me
einyen1
January 14, 2023 at 7:09 pm
18:35 It reminds me of the logo for 2012 Olympic Games in London, it showed Lisa Simpson giving a BJ. And I think it costs like millions to develop that logo…
Garet Robertson
January 14, 2023 at 7:49 pm
Pen-pineapple-apple-pen
Cowboy Curtis
January 14, 2023 at 7:58 pm
i swear, watching this at .25 speed is saving me 60 a month on recreational substances.
Garet Robertson
January 14, 2023 at 8:04 pm
11:05: “Only a stoner asks, ‘How real is reality?'”. Lol, but philosophers do too.
Cowboy Curtis
January 14, 2023 at 8:13 pm
Tim’s Vermeer!!!!
Cowboy Curtis
January 14, 2023 at 8:16 pm
So people with short term memory issues would be expected to perform differently in visual illusion tests? Crazy
Justica Cormier
January 14, 2023 at 8:29 pm
I notice if I look in the lower left hand corner of the dress photo it looks black and blue, but if I look at the top right corner of the photo the dress looks white and gold.. weird
Helex
January 14, 2023 at 8:36 pm
His brain is working so fast 😅
Meta Discussions
January 14, 2023 at 9:11 pm
6:20 you say it’s not under conscious control but you can just open ur eyes wide and it’ll do the same thing
legerdemain
January 14, 2023 at 10:04 pm
Will the wagon wheel illusion be seen more IRL with LED lighting becoming more prevalent? Most LED lights blink very quickly. (FWIW, I see the wagon wheel effect IRL in sunlight and incandescent.)
ArielLiketheMermaid
January 14, 2023 at 10:36 pm
I could *only* see the dress as blue/black but as soon as he mentioned the overexposure of the background…I covered the background side of the image and finally saw white/gold! CRAZY.
E.P
January 15, 2023 at 12:25 am
I thought everyone saw tire rims spin backwards in real life.. my frame rate must be slow 🤷♀️
tooru
January 15, 2023 at 1:21 am
dont make the background so bright
K M
January 15, 2023 at 3:21 pm
This guy is smart and seems comfortable in his element, but maybe he needs some eye drops? Homie blinks so much I thought he was gonna have a seizure. Not tryna be mean, just saying his eyes are probably dry lol
kasuha
January 15, 2023 at 3:31 pm
The wheel effect – I had a lot of fun with it in reality under artificial light when I was about 15 years old. The reason was, our light was blinking 50 times per second along with the mains power supply so when rotating something fast enough, it was possible to syncronize it with the blinking. Such lights are not so common today but I guess some people may still be using them without even knowing about it and they can then experience the effect without having any such “framerate” in their brains.
There are other ways to experience it in real life, all you need is interference with interrupted source of light.
jakce1
January 15, 2023 at 3:46 pm
The wagon wheel effect in reality could be caused by an artificial light source which doesn’t have constant brightness but pulses instead.
Vash The StampCollector
January 15, 2023 at 4:12 pm
Dude!! I saw the dress blue and black and as the video kept going it got more and more white and gold…. so trippy
Cariboubear Malachy
January 15, 2023 at 4:20 pm
The Earth doesn’t set in the lunar sky. It always stays in the same place in the sky.
Boisq
January 15, 2023 at 4:55 pm
i didnt know not everyone experienced the wagon wheel effect irl, thats interesting
Boisq
January 15, 2023 at 4:58 pm
why does he blink so much
Kalhea
January 15, 2023 at 5:20 pm
The Pittsburgh zoo logo has a neat illusion
Machination
January 15, 2023 at 5:27 pm
I always thought The Dress debacle was because someone photoshopped the picture to troll the internet.
Kelly Zhu
January 15, 2023 at 6:11 pm
i saw the video and was like ‘that guy kinda looks like my professor’
Geek-Viper
January 15, 2023 at 6:14 pm
The thing that’s tripping me out is in the thumbnail the dress is white and gold but in the video I see the picture as blue and black. I guess cause he showed the dress and my mind can’t switch back? 🤔 But if I go back to the thumbnail it’s white again.
Madison
January 15, 2023 at 6:27 pm
Man, I love nerds
HallieEva
January 15, 2023 at 6:29 pm
I used to be able to see the dress both ways until I saw the actual dress in regular lighting in a product photo and now I can only see blue and black.
Stefan Meyer
January 15, 2023 at 6:32 pm
Wow this guy was really great!
Jack Aguirre
January 15, 2023 at 6:44 pm
Someone help. I saw the dress before and it was always blue and black for me.
Earlier I saw the thumbnail on this video and it was clearly white and gold. I thought he photoshopped it so I thought nothing of it, watched the segment on the dress and the pictures were blue and black the whole time.
I just looked at the thumbnail again and it’s blue and black… what just happened??
Flameo, Wang Fire
January 15, 2023 at 6:46 pm
Wait, the dress thing isn’t a giant elaborate troll?
Tenneny T
January 15, 2023 at 8:43 pm
I saw the dress as blue and black for the first time ever after he showed the real one
Yevhenii Kovalchuk
January 15, 2023 at 8:45 pm
NO, NOT DUCKS, PLEASE, REVERT THIS EFFECT
Rob Haddock
January 15, 2023 at 9:17 pm
This was great. He was great. Well done.
polterghost
January 15, 2023 at 10:01 pm
What if I see the dress as blue and gold?
KeepWalkingNeverStop
January 15, 2023 at 10:34 pm
Great stuff – love the dude’s knowledge and confidence. Just one thing – optics is Greek for “of sight”, not “of light”.
Cody Brown
January 15, 2023 at 10:40 pm
Real eyes realize real lies
Strawman
January 15, 2023 at 10:53 pm
The dress looks gold and blue too me idk 🤷♂️
Bakkerbaard
January 15, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Here’s a nice case of pareidolia: There’s a goofy snake to his right. Our left. Right until he rips the head off to show off his dress.
Team 974
January 15, 2023 at 11:56 pm
Dress is blue and gold