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Meeting in the Middle Isn’t Enough for Today’s Trickiest Debates | Bill Heck & Stephanie Lepp | TED

Can art help us usefully address polarizing issues such as gender, abortion or race? In a performance of “Faces of X” — a series that seeks to reframe culture-war clashes — actor Bill Heck stages different sides of a debate between capitalism’s champions and its critics, illuminating a new way to grapple with complex realities.…

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Can art help us usefully address polarizing issues such as gender, abortion or race? In a performance of “Faces of X” — a series that seeks to reframe culture-war clashes — actor Bill Heck stages different sides of a debate between capitalism’s champions and its critics, illuminating a new way to grapple with complex realities. After the performance, creator Stephanie Lepp offers three questions we should all ask to move to clear perspective and new understanding. (Recorded at TED2025 on April 9, 2025)

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  1. @WeEnglish-t7q

    August 22, 2025 at 11:15 am

    Another TED talk 👌👏

    • @alanhat5252

      August 22, 2025 at 8:53 pm

      anyone can infer that much from the title, do you have anything useful to say?

  2. @Jasonxbr

    August 22, 2025 at 11:28 am

    Sorry, MAGA is right or straight down the middle they are a cult. 😢😢😢😢😢

    • @alanhat5252

      August 22, 2025 at 8:50 pm

      MAGA is a cult, yes, started in 2016 by Cambridge Analytica to decide the outcome of one particular vote. The perpetrators have just walked away & let it take it’s own course, or maybe they’re still steering it.

  3. @なるほどなるほど-z1y

    August 22, 2025 at 11:29 am

    Aufheben moment

  4. @mrlogboy

    August 22, 2025 at 11:58 am

    I really wanted to like the social socialism versus capitalism chat. But he missed one big aspect he assumes everybody goes by the same dictionary in America and I talked to Americans as I live here old age Security, Social Security benefits by the rest of the world might be seen as a socialism type project.. but Americans are very proud and fierce and say no those are amazing examples of capitalistic Society and if you give it any other name you’re incorrect and you can pound sand. They will say that nothing in America is socialist and if you think so, you’re wrong. So his speech, his TED talk is perfect for most countries other than America. Hahag

    • @BonnieShadow33

      August 22, 2025 at 12:40 pm

      In my experience, when I’ve pointed out that Social Security and public schools are “a dash of socialism mixed with capitalism,” most people I’ve talked to have conceded the point. Depending on how invested I & the other person are in discussing the topic, if someone disagrees I ask if they’re willing to look at the actual definitions of socialism and capitalism. If they are, they usually come away from it agreeing that these programs are socialist in nature. If they aren’t, no problem, change the subject. At the very least, I’ve planted a seed in their mind, and maybe down the road they’ll revisit it.

      Still, even if we disagree, I’m learning how to acknowledge the points they make that are valid by using, “Yes, *and*…”

    • @mrlogboy

      August 22, 2025 at 1:46 pm

      Why do they have to watch this? I have a major flaw with the abortion. I understand that talk and it makes perfect sense and I don’t disagree with it, but the extremes are much bigger than she believes if you do simple googling 65% plus depending on the survey, you see identify themselves as Christian in the broadest sense and following some type of Christian rules> when asked to go to church regularly that goes down to 30 to 40%. So if at minimum 30% are stuck in beliefs there’s no way you’re going to get a middleground where under certain circumstances it is allowed and that’s where we are today and that’s where we are going to stay until something changes on the belief side. Again, I’m not trying to pick on anybody. I’m just trying to state facts.

    • @niccolom

      August 25, 2025 at 11:29 am

      @@BonnieShadow33
      I see you’ve been learning from Vinh Giang the communications coach with the “yes and”.

    • @niccolom

      August 25, 2025 at 11:33 am

      @@BonnieShadow33 Technically, anything that is publicly funded and government-run, be it schools, police, road maintenance, etc., they are all socialist in nature.

    • @BonnieShadow33

      August 25, 2025 at 12:43 pm

      ​@@niccolomUm, no. I learned that from Dialectical Behavioral Therapy in counseling. There’s more than one source for dialectical thinking.

  5. @ChetanLal-t7t

    August 22, 2025 at 12:01 pm

    Think you

  6. @KULCAT79

    August 22, 2025 at 1:38 pm

    People run from socialism to capitalism. In order to install true socialism, its only done through brutal force. Unledd those things change, there is no debate

    • @alanhat5252

      August 22, 2025 at 8:42 pm

      other way round

  7. @felixccaa

    August 22, 2025 at 1:46 pm

    did he notice that nobody laughed?

  8. @uncomfortabletruth3831

    August 22, 2025 at 9:55 pm

    Actually capitalism was a tool of liberalism to lift people out of poverty as it was liberalism that pushed for collective bargaining rights, civil rights and democratic self determination..
    Capitalism is a tool, an unfettered one..

  9. @CantTalkImRiding

    August 22, 2025 at 11:22 pm

    I want so bad to see some good in Trump’s presidency, but I’ve yet to see it. How can half the country support him yet I hate everything he stands for. What am I missing? Where are there right and I’m wrong?

    • @emilsivacek795

      August 23, 2025 at 2:16 am

      your only looking at news that paint him in that light. look at the other side in earnest and you will understand. Have a blessed day

  10. @HaneefahBadejo

    August 23, 2025 at 12:28 am

    One day i will be gere😢

  11. @ChaîneDuBusiness

    August 24, 2025 at 4:16 am

    Great job 🎉❤

  12. @cameronwilson3053

    August 24, 2025 at 10:10 am

    Oh great, “both sides”-ism

  13. @michaelwright8410

    August 24, 2025 at 10:54 am

    So just Nordic style social democracy? Well regulated capitalism with a strong social safety net?

  14. @JONSEY101

    August 25, 2025 at 4:22 am

    Whatever type of system you have, there are always going to be those who try to discover ways to exploit it for self gain.
    Greed is a driving force for some.

    Also, who gets to decide such systems?
    If we go back to what I said before about people out there wanting to exploit such systems for self gain, they will also use some advantage in who gets to decide those systems.
    It could be as simple as one person saying, if you vote for ‘ X ‘, then I’ll do ‘ Y ‘ for you in order to help you get what you want.
    Do that enough times with the right people, and you’ll get your advantage.

    I don’t think there is ever or will ever be a system that is truly fair for everyone.

    • @niccolom

      August 25, 2025 at 11:25 am

      Capitalism is the only fair system because it measures in an objective way via money.
      Everybody abides by the same set of laws, and the playing field is the same for everyone.

      The problem is that, many people think that “talent” and other advantages that one is born with are “unfair.”

      This is like someone calling Messi unfair on the soccer field and want to ban him from playing.

      Some people are born to be better and some aren’t. That does not make the game unfair. As long as the rules and laws are the same for everyone, the game of life is fair. This includes circumventing the rules and laws too. Some people understand them more and therefore are willing to take more risks, and most people don’t. That’s all part of the game.

  15. @Kabrahomie

    August 25, 2025 at 8:11 pm

    It is not possible to integrate mutually exclusive positions without diluting at least one of them. This discourse is so shiiiiity People are so dumb 😅🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  16. @RootsEcho

    August 26, 2025 at 6:06 am

    Truly next level. Nice

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The Blueprint for Serving a Million School Lunches — Every Day | Wawira Njiru | TED

Sometimes feeding just one child can seem challenging. Not for entrepreneur Wawira Njiru, who’s gone from serving lunch to 25 children from a makeshift kitchen to establishing her nonprofit, Food4Education, as a cornerstone of Kenya’s school meals system. Currently serving half a million meals to children every day, she’s now thinking even bigger. Hear about…

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Why You Should Be Able to Vote on Your Phone | Bradley Tusk | TED

The US political system is broken — and the solution might be in the palm of your hands, says political strategist Bradley Tusk. Drawing on his deep experience with government and technology, he makes the case for allowing Americans to vote on their phones, explaining how it can be done safely and securely. Learn why…

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The US political system is broken — and the solution might be in the palm of your hands, says political strategist Bradley Tusk. Drawing on his deep experience with government and technology, he makes the case for allowing Americans to vote on their phones, explaining how it can be done safely and securely. Learn why mobile voting could be the best way to increase voter turnout, reduce political extremism and save our broken democracy. (Recorded at TED2025 on April 10, 2025)

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Let’s Get Real About Free Speech | Greg Lukianoff | TED

“Too many people believe in something closer to freedom from speech rather than freedom of speech,” says attorney Greg Lukianoff. In a timely talk, he warns against the rise of “mob censorship” — and reminds us why free speech is the best check on power ever invented. (Recorded at TED2025 on April 9, 2025) Join…

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“Too many people believe in something closer to freedom from speech rather than freedom of speech,” says attorney Greg Lukianoff. In a timely talk, he warns against the rise of “mob censorship” — and reminds us why free speech is the best check on power ever invented. (Recorded at TED2025 on April 9, 2025)

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