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Chad Riopel
May 28, 2022 at 10:19 pm
I live in northern Canada and I bought a Tesla model 3 in December 2021. The temperature went down to -30° c and the heat pump seized on it. I don’t think it’s made for the extreme cold in Canada. I sold it in January and bought a PHEV Jeep. Much happier with it
holi_dang
May 28, 2022 at 10:36 pm
Can you please turn on the closed captions.
gerardg1950
May 28, 2022 at 10:41 pm
Just stop driving those silly old fashioned machines. What will your grandchildren think of you?
Mike Dunning
May 28, 2022 at 10:42 pm
Brian, calling people stupid makes you stupid.
Dayon Cobbs
May 28, 2022 at 10:46 pm
I believe that Norway is showing the world what an EV world SHOULD look like. They are buying more EVs than ICE cars and they have the infrastructure to support it. The infrastructure issues that we have here in the States are not insurmountable. It’s needs a major upgrade anyway. We’re supposed to be the best in the world yet so many of us deal with rolling blackouts. Why is that? The technology is already here to make improvements. It will provide jobs and the investment will pay off for decades.
Nirossen
May 28, 2022 at 10:53 pm
The audio on this talking is so weird sounding what did yall do? sounds like its in 2 different rooms, I cant even explain it. The rest of the vid sounds fine but the talking is very off
Antonio Gallaccio
May 28, 2022 at 11:13 pm
Your analysis of depreciation is backwards. Everyone knows these cars have a very low resale value. What has to happen is replaceable batteries so folks can put a 5k battery in after 8 years and keep using the same car. That is what current used car values ( minus inflation) is about. A car with a lot of life able to stay on the road cheaply. That’s a great TCO 🙂
KingFluffy
May 28, 2022 at 11:21 pm
I’m sold on Evs need them to come down in price. Specifically I’m looking for a single cab electric Ute, it’s all I need.
Mad Pistol
May 28, 2022 at 11:37 pm
There’s one cost that Brian Cooley did not cover in this video: Time Cost. The cost of charging, the cost of waiting when you’re on a trip, the cost of energy efficiency when you’re carrying a heavier load (which leads to needing to charge sooner), etc. Electric cars are a time sink when it comes to charging, and you literally have to adjust your life around it. ICE cars do not suffer from this; fuel up, and you’re back on the road within 5 minutes or so, no matter what.
The other issue is ENERGY efficiency. A drop of gas contains way more potential energy in it than a similar battery unit. This saves weight, and weight saved means even higher efficiency. We’ve got to solve these issues, along with infrastructure hurdles, before electric cars can truly take off.
John Doe
May 29, 2022 at 12:32 am
@Mad Pistol No, not really. An average EV gets 4mi/kWh. There are 34kWh in a gallon of gas. That would be like getting 140mpg. A super light and efficient gas car like a Prius gets 50-60mpg, less than half. The average person driving a car the size of a Tesla gets less than 30mpg, almost 1/5th.
I regularly get 40mi from 9.5kWh so slightly more from my PHEV.
Mad Pistol
May 29, 2022 at 12:37 am
@John Doe that’s great, but it has nothing to do with energy density. Battery tech simply cannot compete with gasoline/diesel in the current economy. Maybe one day it can, but cars will have to get lighter and go much further for that to happen.
John Doe
May 29, 2022 at 12:45 am
@Mad Pistol first it’s efficiency due to weight then it’s energy density? You seem to be confusing yourself. EVs are massively more efficient than ICE and go 2-5 times further on the same amount of energy.
Your argument was that weight would completely negate the efficiency of EVs yet they are much more efficient. That allows them to be less energy dense and still be more efficient.
Mad Pistol
May 29, 2022 at 1:10 am
@John Doe Read my original post again.
“A drop of gas contains way more potential energy in it than a similar battery unit.”
The efficiency of battery tech is not where it needs to be. I’m not saying that electric cars aren’t efficient. I’m saying that they simply cannot compete with ICE vehicles on absolute efficiency. Stop twisting my words.
John Doe
May 29, 2022 at 1:24 am
@Mad Pistol I don’t think you know enough about what efficiency means to be using it publicly.
70-80% of the energy contained in gasoline is lost when it is combusted. Lost forever as heat and noise.
90% of the energy that comes out of a battery is turned into useful work.
That’s why you can go further for a given unit of energy. They also don’t weight significantly more. A Model S Plaid is between a BMW 5 and 7 series in terms of weight and it can carry more people and cargo than either of them.
I think you’re trying to make the argument that the energy density is low but that only comes into play in edge cases where you’re hauling a load long distances. 95% of personal car trips in the US are less than 30mi and 99% are less than 100mi and a vast majority of the remaining 1% are under 200mi.
Bruno Ruiz De Somocurcio
May 28, 2022 at 11:42 pm
Yeah, it’s time for this guy to go. So dismissive of wanting to own an EV to lower your own carbon footprint, yeah what a stupid reason to buy something. Right? (Sarcasm). “You want to say look at me… Tree hugger”? OK? God forbid I try to show support for the EV industry by buying in early…I must be an ego centric idiot I guess. So tone deaf, read the room (or better yet the global temp) 🙄
Nihar Dongara
May 28, 2022 at 11:44 pm
The audio in this video is really bad.
fredette christopher
May 28, 2022 at 11:49 pm
It cost $200-300 a year in gas tax. So even it your state hasn’t started charging they will soon.
Also, you need 220-40 installed at your house. That’s almost impossible for apartment dwellers and running a power cord to the curb or where people park 2 blocks away will probably be impossible. This alone is probably over half the drivers.
There’s also no 2 door coupes or minivans and none that have a 500+ mile range of my minivan I bought new for $32000. The closest thing is a longe range model X that’s like 80k.
Also, ev’s haven’t got cheaper in the last 2 years, they’ve gotten way more expensive.
And they have way more parts than an ice car. They only have less moving parts. You only need one cell to short and the whole thing burns to the ground. Also, tesla(#1 seller) has a lock on parts. After warranty they get very expensive to fix.
And although the batteries may last a long time, the degrade. Not the end of the world but clearly over time that will make them depreciate more than today.
Honestly I’m not super negative on ev’s but I don’t think toc will be that much better based on current battery tech and rising new car prices. They will still grow pretty fast from the current 3% to maybe 20% sales.
redaction
May 28, 2022 at 11:57 pm
When played on a sound system with Atmos or surround sound, this video for some reason plays on satellite speakers not the main hub.
Jay Kay
May 29, 2022 at 1:12 am
All I hear is the Depeche Mode elevator edition lol. No voices?
Chuck Ackerman
May 29, 2022 at 12:02 am
What a tone-deaf title.
I won’t be buying one anytime soon because I live in a neighborhood that has street parking only. Not assigned. Some nights I’m lucky enough to park in front of my house, some nights I park across the street. Some nights, I have to park a block or two away. Where am I going to charge it?
Typical “reporting” from CNET.
Affordable Armory
May 29, 2022 at 12:03 am
What’s up with the volume on this video? The music breaks and other sounds are full volume but the talking is really quiet.
Dave Smith
May 29, 2022 at 12:10 am
Stop Gaslighting us
CNET is now Potato Joe’s mouthpiece
Unsubscribed
joseph ivan
May 29, 2022 at 12:18 am
I bought a used Nissan leaf six months ago, it had 60 k miles cost only 8k and still had 80 plus percent battery life left. one of the best decisions I have ever made. Maintenance on my old SUV $800. Maintenance on my leaf almost 0. I can change the trans fluid and rotate tires.
Dave Smith
May 29, 2022 at 12:20 am
No mechanic in my city will touch EVs
You can’t even Diagnose a Tesla
No mechanic has access to
Tesla Software
Christopher Ashcroft
May 29, 2022 at 12:25 am
Great for homeowners, but I rent. No charging station at my building.
Bigtruckseriesreview Motorsports
May 29, 2022 at 12:26 am
I preordered a new Cadillac Lyriq.
As gas has damn near doubled in price now find myself spending $116 to fill my tank each week. All things being equal: an electric vehicle will absolutely save me money.
The problem is that most electric vehicles cost between 50 and $60,000 to start. The Cadillac Lyriq, the Kia EV6 and the Hyundai Ionic5 are probably the best EV that I’ve driven and the best competitors to Teslas cars which are over priced and give you far less features.
Bigtruckseriesreview Motorsports
May 29, 2022 at 12:27 am
If you have a house with a garage and can run a powerline then buying an EV as a daily driver is a no-brainer. The only people who don’t need to worry about an EV are the people who have no place to charge it. Public chargers are available but nobody wants to be in a car sitting there and prone to crime.
Joel Appenzeller
May 29, 2022 at 12:54 am
They are practically the playthings of the wealthy. They are too expensive. They have limitations in resale due to battery life span. The are not in any way “renewable” since mining the materials used to make the batteries rapes the earth worse than oil. They are completely unnecessary since we have more than enough oil. In short. They are stupid
Clark Mills
May 29, 2022 at 1:20 am
Petrol’s only going to get more expensive and solar / wind / powerwall is getting cheaper. And we can use our cars batteries to stabilise the grid and use that renewable energy when it’s cheap or unwanted by the grid. The smart-grid is where we are all headed… and Tesla knows that; their Autobidder software and battery banks are showing how far ahead they are – it’s not just their cars.
Ou8y2k2
May 29, 2022 at 1:25 am
I think your lapel mic battery died because your audio is shetland pony.
DAdamsSnaps
May 29, 2022 at 1:27 am
My next vehicle will be an EV. I love LOVE my petrol powered Porshces, but now that the ID Buzz and Macan EV are making the rounds, there’s no reason to not have an EV.
Rick Stokes
May 29, 2022 at 8:01 pm
Such a mind job. The vast majority of people can’t afford a decent EV, and they’ve got everyone believing they’re ‘GREEN’ which they are NOT. The real cars of the future are Hydrogen, and NOT those with Fuel cells, but the ones that do the electrolysis onboard so you’re not tied to using fill stations.
Cosmin Radu
May 29, 2022 at 8:10 pm
No …thank you!
Cosmin Radu
May 29, 2022 at 8:11 pm
For high usage is not good at all.
Texas Heat
May 29, 2022 at 8:32 pm
The power grid can’t handle what we have already. Can you imagine, millions upon millions EVs and the weight and strain it would put on the grid itself? Then they will have to raise the cost of electricity and then here we are not a penny saved on a car that cost twice as much. Show me the numbers, not just he said she said crap.
Abdiel AlvareZ
May 29, 2022 at 8:46 pm
Can’t hear the vocals
Mike Charles
May 29, 2022 at 8:55 pm
i need a truck. current EVs don’t fit my work needs. i would like to have an EV truck that has the range and capability of my current Ram 1500.
memong diaz
May 29, 2022 at 9:11 pm
is it me or is the guy talks but no actual sound when he speaks? 🤔
The Swole Dad PITBULL
May 29, 2022 at 9:15 pm
Umm I cant afford one if I wanted one Thank to our president and Inflation I’m taking care of 2 kids and having had enough of a time putting food on the table ect. Thank Brandon!
Wayno Guerrini
May 29, 2022 at 9:56 pm
Bad audio + no captioning = no watch
Dark Lord Dame
May 29, 2022 at 10:02 pm
Audio messed up on video I don’t hear any talking
Christopher Davison
May 29, 2022 at 10:03 pm
One thing that’s not really talked about for electric cars is wheelchair accessibility and other specialized uses. My family recently had to upgrade to a gas guzzling Honda Odyssey as there are no fully electric cars that suit my needs. Stubbornness had nothing to do with it. It more has to do with a lack of inclusive design from electric car manufacturers. Since I am in a wheelchair, I require a vehicle with a ramp or lift. Since a lift is rather bulky and typically requires a larger vehicle, it is less practical since it does not fit in a common garage. A vehicle with a ramp is nice because it just uses a regular minivan or in some cases an SUV which makes it easier to fit in a garage. This is also typically a little cheaper.
A converted vehicle with a ramp requires aftermarket modifications to lower the floor and to add the ramp electronics and hardware. Since most electric cars have their batteries built into the floor frame, that makes the idea of a conversion difficult. In addition, manufacturers like Tesla, frown on aftermarket modifications. Then there must be technicians familiar with electric cars that are confident enough to make significant modifications without disrupting the electronics. With all these complications, an inclusive solution would almost have to come from a manufacturer for an accessible electric car to be feasible. Perhaps with a higher volume of electric cars, that would make it easier to find a solution much like it would solve some of the problems you mentioned. I would love to have an electric car, but you can’t really find one that would work for my needs.
Edison Ng
May 29, 2022 at 10:05 pm
In 2022, I havent seen any depreciation on electric vehicle so far. In Australia a used Tesla Model 3 cost more than the brand new MSRP.
Enzo Troccoli
May 29, 2022 at 10:19 pm
WTF were is the audio, this guy doesn’t say a bloody thing, I turned my volume to full, no audio.
chemjam
May 29, 2022 at 10:39 pm
I don’t believe TCO will be the factor when government is slowly forcing everyone to go electric whether you want to or not……
Schaf
May 29, 2022 at 10:43 pm
It’s going to be interesting to see how our society handles the higher demand for electricity as electric cars sell. We struggle with brown outs out West without the new demand. I’m not against electric cars. Saving money is awesome but there is a lot more to think about other than the positives of TCO.
Juan Colina
May 29, 2022 at 10:47 pm
Stubborn here, my car is paid off and don’t need to go into debt
Lisa Smith
May 29, 2022 at 11:21 pm
Wasn’t he just bashing EV in the other video?
Jean Denis
May 29, 2022 at 11:22 pm
I don’t know what’s happening but the audio in this video is playing a cover of All I ever wanted by Depeche Mode…
Ernest in town and Jack in the country
May 29, 2022 at 11:26 pm
I would love to, but I have no way to plug it in! I have to do on-street parking without a consistent parking spot every day.
heeroy7
May 29, 2022 at 11:34 pm
Are EV’s nice….sure to a certain extent but EV’s at least in America will not be 50% of cars unless……
1. There are significant increases in quality yes I’m looking at you Tesla!
2. Increase in nuclear powerplants as renewables cannot generate enough power to charge all these cars. As long as plants are using fossil fuels it will be more affordable to run a gas powered car.
3. More affordable EV’s as the average American cannot afford to buy a home let alone an EV.
4. Better range with more accessible charging stations!
Yellow Snowman
May 30, 2022 at 12:13 am
The average EV sale is over $60,000. That’s why your premise isn’t true.
Car manufacturers are flat out price gouging these cars. They sell what should be a 25k EV for 52k. It’s insane.
Unubis Gaskin
May 30, 2022 at 12:47 am
Check your video before submitting it. The sound is non existent.
Voice Of Reason
May 30, 2022 at 1:01 am
Anyone remember Demolition Man?….be well.
Peter Rigatti
May 30, 2022 at 1:07 am
As long as the Communist Democratic Party keeps pushing EV and keeps tell us lies about combustion causing the lie of climate change, we will never buy them…… end
Mark W
May 30, 2022 at 1:22 am
Bryan Cooley back on CNET, YES 👍. Good video, great composition and to the point. I recently purchased a used Chevy Volt, in very good condition, and enjoy driving primarily on a charge but having the onboard generator as needed. Several apps to use to find charging stations. $5.00 a gallon gasoline will help drive EV sales, as will having a friend with an EV that doesn’t have your gasoline bill. Our electric ⚡️ grid will have to grow and that will undoubtedly increase electric bills for everyone. But if you buy solar panels for the house and maybe a wind turbine, you decrease dependency on the grid. It doesn’t take long to pay off.
john doe
May 30, 2022 at 12:21 pm
lets see an expensive ev or a screaming V12 ? V12 any day, it’s smiles per gallon not miles per gallon.
Ronald Nurse
May 30, 2022 at 1:09 pm
I have owned a tesla for three years, best vehicle i have ever owned. I will never by another gas vehicle.
Ronald Nurse
May 30, 2022 at 1:10 pm
Sorry ,buy
Will E.
May 30, 2022 at 1:36 pm
Why is it so hard to hear Brian on this video?
ck85x65
May 30, 2022 at 1:42 pm
No EV purchase until thermal runaway is solved(NOT mitigated), regulations regarding battery safety, and fire,ambulance, police and paramedic staff have tools, training and experience dealing with emergency situations.
idanny76
May 30, 2022 at 2:15 pm
Did anyone else watch this video and ask yourself what was the conclusion? He talked about it in the present and the future, but didn’t say if the TCO for EV is better than fuel vehicles. Talking for 6 minutes to say so much and answer nothing.
idanny76
May 30, 2022 at 2:21 pm
I am surprised he didn’t mention that the electricity you are charging your vehicle comes from fossil fuel power plants…… Which is not green energy. We need electric airplanes, military electric tanks and vehicles, electric misiles, electric granades….. Etc 😂
dick welch
May 30, 2022 at 3:05 pm
Bring the prices down from 60 thousand dollars. To 30000.
dick welch
May 30, 2022 at 3:06 pm
Average guy won’t buy these cars.
BigPotatoMoths
May 30, 2022 at 3:48 pm
Why do I NOT want an EV? Assuming a 20min to charge the battery from ~20 to ~80%, I consider that far, far too long and unacceptable when I’m on a trip. I also have no desire to deal with a battery that fails out of warranty. I live in the Pacific Northwest in a small town with maybe 2 destination chargers (at car dealerships), where the nearest Tesla or Electrify America charging station is a half hour away in an inconvenient directions. Can’t use solar power to augment charging at home because it rains far too much here to make it remotely economical. Currently we have three cars at home and none of us have any desire to play musical garage charging on three cars.
Woody Battle
May 30, 2022 at 5:45 pm
EVs still have a long way to go before cost is even a consideration. Range and charging times have to be a lot better first.
razatlab100
May 30, 2022 at 5:56 pm
Easy to say when you can afford it. Get off you soapbox.
screwface989
May 30, 2022 at 6:15 pm
Am i the only one who can’t hear the commentary in this video?
Deuante Kelly
May 30, 2022 at 6:33 pm
Assuming everyone has a home to install the electric charger or that they have the money to buy a brand new car is classists
H.C. Hawn
May 30, 2022 at 7:00 pm
And what when/if the TCO shoots up beyond the reach of the general public?
Ross Craig
May 30, 2022 at 7:03 pm
I think the majority of people will be charging at home. For those in the market for a new car, I would buy an EV. There was no mention of lower priced cars, just Tesla and BMI. You can get the Ford F-150 Pro for $40K, too bad it isn’t available in Canada
Walker123qwe
May 30, 2022 at 7:05 pm
Except consider that it isn’t practical for every climate. For example Arizona and alaska, high and low temperatures effect battery performance. I’ve seen enough videos of Tesla’s blowing up while charging.
Vegas Steve
May 30, 2022 at 8:47 pm
It might happen in someones lifetime, but with the average car being 12+ years old, it will take that long to get any kind of traction with EV’s. And no one should buy a EV with an old battery, so new purchases will always be at the forefront and not many can afford these things.
Jeanne Weitz Paradise
May 30, 2022 at 10:09 pm
No, I don’t want a $39,000 on a car that uses cobalt and lithium extracted with child slave labor from Congo. It’s not Green, it’s unethical. Horrible investment.
Blair MacDonald
May 30, 2022 at 10:22 pm
Please don’t set the audio 100% to the left channel. Not everyone watches with speakers/both headphones in.
PAS INC
May 30, 2022 at 10:53 pm
What’s with the voice audio? Music only heard on this video.
Rotormatic
May 30, 2022 at 11:08 pm
Good video. Yes, the TCO is well beyond the value printed on the sticker price on the car.
Our society loves credit. Get satisfied now & pay later. Fossil fuels are just like a *giant credit card* that society has used to supercharge our growth starting greatly during the Victorian period (1800s). Fossil fuels were *easy to get* and *easy to use* just like all those free credit card offers we get in the mail all the time. But that debt eventually comes due and, over such a long period, the compound interest will be spectacular!
It tends to be lost or maybe its just too obvious but we should be reminded that *fossil fuels will eventually run out* right? It takes millions of years to replenish it. Estimates for amounts of crude oil left range from 50 to 100 years. And as we have already pumped out the easiest to reach crude, the remaining amounts get harder and harder to extract — like trying to scrape the bottom of a barrel of ice cream. Those bottom of the barrel sources are both harder and costlier to get but also take more energy to do so. So, economically, the estimates for “useable fossil fuels” may be much less.
BTW, a surprising *20lbs* of CO₂ is emitted per gallon of gasoline burned. The average US passenger sedan puts out 4.6 metric tons of CO₂ per year! There’s an estimated 1.5 billion of motor vehicles globally.
Shashank Degloorkar
May 30, 2022 at 11:11 pm
Wait till you see electricity rates matchup gas rates as everyone will charge EVs.
Toshi
May 31, 2022 at 12:01 am
How is the Resale value on EV?
Montavio Hawaii
May 31, 2022 at 12:15 am
Bad audio. Clicked off early
A Googler
May 31, 2022 at 1:07 am
Your probably right 😡
Beef Ingot
May 31, 2022 at 7:36 am
The fact they charge like your smartphone, full every time you leave the house, and has low maintenance frustration are the main benefits in my opinion.
I also like that they (the good ones at least) have big front trunks and rear trunks, and no stupid center consoles sometimes.
anthony calandra
May 31, 2022 at 9:05 am
Without convenient charging stations all over the country and the infrastructure/power to support EV’s needs not to mention mechanics to work on them….. the coversation is useless. It will take time.
murcielago Batman
May 31, 2022 at 3:07 pm
There is no audio
c0smicwaverider
May 31, 2022 at 3:27 pm
Hahaha would love to see EVs being driven in the middle of Sudan. Yep. Nope. EVs do have a place in the market, but the BS that EVs will make combustion engines obsolete is crap.
EV maintenance, battery issues, expense parts and software issues.
Realistic I see EVs being in the mix in urban centres.
We have 2 cars, eventually 1 will be an EV as we use 1 mainly in town.
Tim Woody
May 31, 2022 at 3:51 pm
The real problem with EVs now is the cost of entry. Very few are below $40,000 with most substantially higher. This is keeping many people out of the market. The next is a less than mature charging network.
Impact to Infinity
May 31, 2022 at 4:25 pm
Thank you editor for trying to pay homage to Depeche Mode in the background track. RIP Andy Fletcher.
Nunya Business
May 31, 2022 at 4:42 pm
Naw.
Frank RenewablesCheap
May 31, 2022 at 4:43 pm
Being stubborn is easy when around 1% of vehicles on the road are EVs. Once EVs become 90%, being stubborn will become a PIA, and EV options and infrastructure will be much improved. Just watch Norway. They will get there first.
Nunya Business
May 31, 2022 at 4:44 pm
Where’s all the electric coming from? California is barely keeping lights on now what is it going to be like with the additional power requirements of everyone trying to plug In a car.
Jadambomb
May 31, 2022 at 5:09 pm
Do the main batteries last 200k miles on most EVs? If not, you probably should add in the cost of replacing the battery, which can be several thousand dollars.
CCRob720
May 31, 2022 at 5:30 pm
Weird.. when using ear pod pro.. you have to use both or just get 1/2 the audio..
M5Dragon TechSavvy
May 31, 2022 at 5:45 pm
Another hit piece from media who depend on marketing $ from fossil fuel and dependent industries that will be extinct or refuse to adopt clean energy future. Just follow the $…
Shirley Márquez Dúlcey
May 31, 2022 at 6:07 pm
The depreciation of EVs other than Tesla cars looks dramatic. But to get the true picture you have to look at the actual price that the original buyer paid after tax incentives, not the ostensible list price. EV depreciation looks more normal once that is factored in.
DMan 9971
May 31, 2022 at 7:25 pm
Why is his voice coming out of my rear speakers rather than the center channel???
Theodore Olson
May 31, 2022 at 8:21 pm
What’s keeping me away is the availability of repair and maintenance. I would consider a Tesla except I don’t want to deal with their whacky customer service and repair “process”. I suppose if I went with a GM something I might avoid that. Anyway I’m not comfortable yet.
Daniel Emerson
May 31, 2022 at 8:53 pm
They need to tell the truth about the carbon burned just to create the batteries to power the car. This is done through strip mining. You could run your car for 50 to 100 years and maybe then you will have the same carbon footprint as it takes to create one EV.
Pat Shozo
May 31, 2022 at 9:17 pm
Well presented! Thanks for the comparison! I have a 2022 Lightning from Ford on it’s way in – will see how it does with my electricity bill…
Home Tech
May 31, 2022 at 9:32 pm
Sorry but I disagree majority don’t care about total cost of ownership the number one reason is upfront cost, just like solar panels total cost of ownership over 25 years, no trainer it pays for it self, but the upfront cost no way, also very soon a TAX per mile will be added in every country as governments lose the tax that is added to fuel so total cost of ownership will definitely increase. Untill EVs get closer to non EV prices the. EV won’t take of for the Average driver. But I thing that will be around 2026 ish?
David John
May 31, 2022 at 9:43 pm
Klaus Schwab and World Economic Forum of build back better by destroying our current economy will be a complete failure.
Bigman
May 31, 2022 at 10:17 pm
What’s happened when we get a block four Days. Or weeks does these EV charger as a back up generators,questions people never ask 🤪🤪🇵🇷🤪
Shakked Brand
May 31, 2022 at 10:33 pm
The sound is broken on this video
Midlander
May 31, 2022 at 10:35 pm
Did the audio for this video fail for anyone else? Other videos I watched from other channels had normal audio.
Party of One
May 31, 2022 at 10:49 pm
Someone forgot to add the voice track.
Mudturtle
May 31, 2022 at 10:59 pm
As always it is NIMB. That electricity is probably coming from coal or natural gas. So you are passing on the pollution to someone else. This is yet another government give away to get some votes.
Music man
June 1, 2022 at 12:07 am
Not going to be blackmailed by the left into buying a ridiculous “ev” which is actually coal powered, unless your local power comes from nuclear. They might have artificially raised the price of gas but until they get rid Of it completely I’m keeping my gas truck
dauchande
June 1, 2022 at 2:20 am
So no one talks about the $7,000 battery pack replacement cost you’ll have to do around 7 years in
Cliff Truesdell
June 1, 2022 at 3:20 am
…unless you’re just poor!
TONY Bl
June 1, 2022 at 3:33 am
Just paid $26k for a new ice vehicle and it was more than I could really afford (but all I could find new) find me a sub $25k ev and I’m all in if fully warranted).
StillWaters
June 1, 2022 at 4:02 am
The cost of entry is way too high for a lot of people. All if you don’t have a garage to charge over night it’s just not worth it. I’ll keep my paid off Honda Civic hatchback until the wheels fall off. I’m averaging 38 miles a gallon and that is perfectly fine with me.
Saeed Khan
June 1, 2022 at 7:37 am
Ah if only they were as cheap as petrol cars
Scott Brennan
June 1, 2022 at 11:10 am
The 800 lb gorilla you failed to mention is that electric prices are skyrocketing and will continue to skyrocker sustantiallly increasing the cost to charge a vehicle. Plus the electrical grid is going to become less and less reliable with power generating companies turning more and more to ‘renewables’ – pull up to your Tesla supercharger only to be greeted with an out of service message due to a rolling black out (which will become more and more regluar). All this video was is an anti-ICE diatribe with statistics put together by someone wearing extreme rose colored glasses. Plus, you haven’t factored in the existing and to get worse raw material shortages to make batteries and what I expect will be a soon to come public pushback against EVs and their massive environmental impact to extract raw materials from the ground (sort of like the blood diamond trade). Personally I believe the future of EVs is bleak unless they find another power source besdies lithium batteries such as more focus on truly renewable hydrogen powered vehicles.
Vanquish Media
June 1, 2022 at 11:26 am
No thank you I am fine with my internal combustion engines.
Stany Philip
June 1, 2022 at 11:33 am
Am not stubborn, I simply can’t afford it. Even a second hand electric vehicle cost 3 times than a second hand Mercedes G wagon. Plus no charging infrastructure and if I can run a cord from my room at the top floor all the way down to parking.
jrichardson6
June 1, 2022 at 11:35 am
wtf withe sound levels
Padre
June 1, 2022 at 11:49 am
Let’s be honest, how many people actually keep a car for its full lifetime to make TCO worthwhile?
Most people sell/exchange their cars every 3 years or so.
MyMrkeys
June 1, 2022 at 1:10 pm
I am self employed and take a vehicle to client’s residences. In 2016 a new Leaf. After incentives it cost me about $10,000 more than a comparable ICE car. Doing the math on operating costs I was saving around $1,700 a year which made it a 17% return on investment. I ended up trading to a 2018 for extra range and took a huge depreciation whack partly offset by a capital loss against my income which resulted in a very rare income tax refund. It would have resulted in a much lower ROI except that gasoline prices have spiked to the point where I’m saving around $2800 in annual fuel costs alone.
I am not in the normal income bracket of EV purchasers. Being self employed allows me to take the depreciation as a business expense which makes all the difference. I can’t understand how many of the trades which do local servicing are not twigging on to this. I still hold on to a well maintained 1999 Saturn I bought brand new and declare it as my personal car. Works for me.
Viranjith Tilakaratne
June 1, 2022 at 2:01 pm
Dang. Time to sell the Jag.
SCOTT WIEDENMANN
June 1, 2022 at 3:21 pm
I cannot hear the dialogue, only the background music. Every other video that I open is OK. Would have loved to hear the info.
T Dub
June 1, 2022 at 4:24 pm
by the end of the decade less than 30percent of new vehicles are hybrids, plug in hybrids and electric….. thats not very impressive….
BoulderMTBR
June 1, 2022 at 4:25 pm
FACT: New EV is NOT TCO competitive with a comparable ICE vehicle. FACT: Used EV buyer will have to spend an enormous sum replacing the battery.
F Fl1
June 1, 2022 at 7:09 pm
Two major hurdles for used car market (1) People attaching “used-electronics stigma” to electric cars (2) Tech evolving so fast used electric cars becoming obsolete
JazzFan74
June 1, 2022 at 7:18 pm
Problem is, lots of American buy stuff on credit. Only a very small portion go through this sort of calculation over the life of the car. Of course, a lower TCO will eventually lead to a lower monthly payment, but that might take a while to happen. Another point is that cars occupy a very special cultural niche in America. If what we really cared about was TCO, then the SUV trend of recent years is tough to explain. For the same reason, people may just decide on a cultural level, they’d rather have a car they can drive 1000 miles through the desert, as they can with an SUV, even if they never come close to doing that.
LoveStallion
June 1, 2022 at 8:23 pm
I don’t think EVs aren’t quite there on TCO. Getting there, yes, but not entirely, especially when I can still grab a perfectly efficient and reliable Corolla.
Michael Raimondi
June 1, 2022 at 11:25 pm
Poor sound on this video.
Mbak Tari
June 1, 2022 at 11:41 pm
If EV CARS like NIO EV car which has SWAPPING BATTERY system. I might consider EV. CHARGING is still take time.
David Kapfhammer
June 2, 2022 at 12:25 am
I paid ~$26k for a used Lexus IS (3 years old) with ~34k miles. My friend purchased a nearly new Tesla for $50k. I’d argue that my Lexus IS more luxurious and rides nicer than the Tesla; and he shelled out $24K more than me. $24k worth of gas sure goes a long way. My driving habits, about 4 fill-ups a month, mean I can fill up my car for 5 years before I spend the same amount he did. TCO is nowhere near being in favor of electric cars. Not even close.
ElroyMcDuff
June 2, 2022 at 12:52 am
Ah, the good ‘ol US of A. Just think about all those millions of gasoline & diesel powered vehicles just sitting there idling in fast food lines, at stop lights, in grocery store parking lots (while their less lazy significant other does the shopping…) belching out smoke, the amount of which isn’t even regulated in some areas SMH…
An EV is a beautiful thing in that regard. You could sit there for DAYS running the AC or Heater (hopefully thanks to a more efficient heat pump) with ZERO emissions. Of course, the ideal would be to have renewable energy charge the car in the first place and we’re not there yet but it’s doable! Windmills do NOT cause cancer people! 😝