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Beth L
December 8, 2021 at 7:58 pm
They want her control over women’s bodies not affecting birth control, but power over women’s wages and positions in their workplace. It gives companies too much power over the lives of women who are at lower end and high pressure jobs where taking time off prohibiting advances.
Joy Han
December 8, 2021 at 8:03 pm
Abort is murder
Master Dalessio
December 8, 2021 at 8:31 pm
Remember when “Mostly Peaceful Protest’s” looked like burning man. Now this schill is hinting towards more of that
Bill Boxall
December 8, 2021 at 8:45 pm
Go out and buy trump’s new picture book. That’s probably more your speed.
mowgli2071
December 8, 2021 at 9:12 pm
@Bill Boxall go out and get the room temperature challenge after chasing someone who put a fire out in a dumpster. Seems more your speed.
why should i give you my name
December 8, 2021 at 8:44 pm
inter-racial marriage next.
delawarecop
December 8, 2021 at 10:07 pm
BS! Scaremongering!
rufkarma
December 8, 2021 at 8:49 pm
There are many statements that she makes that I agree with; however, she really is a crackpot.
sachamm
December 9, 2021 at 1:15 am
Ok, quote one statement that you think makes her a crackpot.
Remy Lebeau
December 8, 2021 at 8:55 pm
The constitution NEVER protected the heinous act of murder that you call abortion. You invented legal nonsense out of thin air about the right to privacy and twisted that to somehow mean a right to abortion. Leave it to democrats to desperately demand the right to continue genocide and ignore the right to life of the most innocent among us.
Remy Lebeau
December 8, 2021 at 9:15 pm
Keep wearing those muzzles women. Truly this is the side that cares about you the most. Never mind they want you to end up childless, alone, and bitter. Feminism has produced the more depressed women than we have ever seen. You were “empowered” to leave everything that would make a woman happy and instead told to enjoy a mindless and thankless existence on the corporate ladder. Great job. Let’s see how that works out for you.
And for those that want to choose to be a mother and reject the evils of feminism, it was never about your right to choose, it was about their right to tell you what to choose.
Robert Thomas
December 8, 2021 at 9:16 pm
Who fights for the rights of all the dead children!? Perhaps the woman’s right to choose should be exercised by choosing birth control or adoption. Just like you complain that someone is taking away your right to choose, you would be taking away that child’s right to choose life. Do you see the hypocrisy of save the trees, whales, environment, etc., but kill the children? Black lives matter but children’s lives don’t!? Silly humans! A woman’s right to choose does not trump the right to life! Show some consistency of thought. If you stand for the rights of others but don’t stand for the rights of unborn children, you stand for nothing! This is a modern-day atrocity akin to that of what happened at Auschwitz.
Aylin R
December 8, 2021 at 9:21 pm
I don’t know why she mentions religion. Religion has nothing to do here. You don’t have to be religious to know abortion is wrong.
Steve Muratore
December 8, 2021 at 9:33 pm
It’s not about whether abortion is wrong. It’s about whether women are humans subject to protections of the US Constitution.
Fancy Forest Person
December 8, 2021 at 9:33 pm
You also don’t have to be religious to know that leaving children to suffer in abusive homes, in foster care, and in state facilities is wrong. But look at us all go.
But hey, at least we can point out how bad abortion is, which makes us much better people.
Ms. Latika
December 8, 2021 at 9:31 pm
Just because abortion is available, doesn’t mean you have to have one.
Now read it again, slowly.
Once more for comprehension!
Any questions?
Steve Muratore
December 8, 2021 at 9:34 pm
IF Roe is overturned, there will be massive and immediate political unrest in the US.
Steven Keller
December 8, 2021 at 9:54 pm
Roe v wade uses the same legal reasoning as dred scott v Sanford and both are bad law,I think this nation is long overdue to acknowledge fetal personhood under the constitution cause Lincoln fought to abolish slavery even though the majority of the country then supported slavery and then trump came onto the stage in 2016 then pulled out all the stops and proved himself to be an amazing abortion abolishinist and continue the path of how abortion dehumanizes unborn life as slavery dehumanized slaves and both abortion and slavery are wrong
Figgy27
December 8, 2021 at 10:01 pm
For the love of God, please turn off comments on ANY videos that concern politics.
Jessie james
December 8, 2021 at 10:18 pm
Probably a good idea. Most smart people aren’t commenting In the chat section of youtube videos. it’s basically 90% the dumbest in society. AKA Trumpolines
chimpera1
December 8, 2021 at 11:09 pm
Do you know that you are an undemocratic authoritarian?
InMaTeofDeath
December 8, 2021 at 11:17 pm
+Figgy27 Heaven forbid people from opposing sides actually talk to one another. That might actually lead to some mutual understanding, we can’t have any possibility of that better just throw free speech in the trash and only allow one opinion. Ministry of Truth here we come!
chimpera1
December 9, 2021 at 12:32 am
Perhaps I misjudged you. If you are feeling anxiety at the prospect of conflict, understand that the alternative to a war of words is actual violence. The alternative to comment sections is top down authoritarian propaganda.
dawg gone vidz
December 8, 2021 at 10:31 pm
“You can’t abort children! that’s barbaric! If you have an unwanted pregnancy, simply wait 14 years until they get shot at school like god intended.” ~ ‘merican bible thumpers.
You can get off your high horse right wing america, abortion is the least disgusting thing your country does.
Isaac Raze
December 8, 2021 at 10:58 pm
It’s better off overturned then undermined (Pro-choice) At least you’ll be able to move to a state or vote for people who agree with you in your state if it’s overturned and sent back to the states. (If your on either side of the argument) If it’s undermined not so much. (Pro-choice)
Ahmed Hosny
December 8, 2021 at 11:08 pm
As a native English speaker what’s your advise to me to improve my listening I can only understand 20% of this vedio
KookyMiyuki
December 8, 2021 at 11:24 pm
Banning abortion only bans it for the poor. Wealthy people can afford to travel if they need an abortion. Or, like you said, move to a state that is more in line with their politics. However, the most vulnerable among us, those whose lives would be completely derailed by an unwanted pregnancy, do not have the means to move themselves to a place with legal abortion, whether it’s a trip or a permanent move.
Isaac Raze
December 9, 2021 at 12:30 am
@KookyMiyuki That’s why I also said they’d have to vote to change there states political make-up if they can’t/”don’t want to” move. I’m just stating the facts about what one can do if Roe vs Wade is overturned.
KLAKLAWES
December 8, 2021 at 11:06 pm
TILL 4:24
* U are form DC (CRISTIAN DEMOCRACY= it means RPG ndu culu justice= go to jail or die)
* It means all the women started and protected from Church (and they are all women or negro/the future mother of priest/housband who says go to church to get work till 4:24)
* The legal site of Church is Rome, not US
* When religious behaviours dimished, superstition increase (sacraments of the Devil, that is under God as agent to know ur pathos for the Lord…. and whose minister are in Rome, not white house)
* Many kids are killed cuz in US Satanism is legalized (animals and human sacrifices= ask john ramirez, marilyn manson, beyonce and so on.. and i thing maybe 80% of people in tv)
* That means that homicide is legalized/granted by constution (and i dont like US= fanatism)
* That’s the reason why, many people with different culture/civil uses go to US
(There is nomore quarrel… cuz there is no low, like prostitution in Italy… worst, protected/granted)
KLAKLAWES
December 8, 2021 at 11:18 pm
7:59 I KNOW WHERE U WANNA GO
* Seems all women that have just get a baby born
* A great thing is that in US women can marry a priest… better
– They know what they are talking about= love
– No theory, all practice
* In Italy many says (like Canada scandals with people of Nawaho), but it is just logic.. as usual:
– If u get pregnant, is for the continuing of priests (ereditary work from 1.000 after Christ)
– If u break the ball… the kid will serve the church (no institution stay up with praying… ask john ramirez, Marilin Manson….)
– If u break always the ball u will be like Set (make on pieces)
– If u stay ok… they will make made u carrier under minister of the way of good/bad thieves (mafia rules)
cestmoiaussi
December 8, 2021 at 11:42 pm
Follow the money. End the legalized bribery that is our political system . We need lots of things… human rights, climate change, etc.. a constitutional amendment to regulate effectively how politics is funded would do wayyyy more to help this country than any other amendment. (not that we don’t need those, too). We don’t need the Congress to do it! States can do it …There is a way. for now. the window IS closing… Oh, if only we all could be politically active for the same cause instead of some over here and some over there….
JRcat
December 8, 2021 at 11:59 pm
She’s literally skirting the issue of fetal rights, and then she starts to rant about female rights. Female rights were an issue 30 years ago, when she was young. They’re no longer a major issue. You achieved what you aimed for, move on. Nobody is trying to “control” anybody. If they’re trying to control anything, it’s men, with all the modern “toxic masculinity” bullcrap. Anyway, the real issue is that she just didn’t discuss fetal rights, which WILL BE THE MAIN THING that will turn over Roe vs Wade, probably within the next couple of years. That’s a good thing, because life has a right to live, and with life I mean any fetus that could theoretically become a citizen of the United States. Abortion should be LEGAL, right up to the moment during pregnancy that modern medicine can take over and make sure it can actually live. That moment is after 4 to 5 months right now, but in the future, it will be 3 months, 2 months, etcetera. Roe vs Wade NEEDS to be overturned because it will become unconstitutional.
Don O
December 9, 2021 at 12:02 am
Kathryn Kolbert please stop calling is Planned Parenthood. It’s planned Killing.
Don O
December 9, 2021 at 12:04 am
No Justice Kennedy to save US? How about saving children? How can you be ok with KILLING BABIES. Why is is a double murder when a pregnant women get’s killed?
Don O
December 9, 2021 at 12:05 am
Reproductive health. Is that for the Babies?
sachamm
December 9, 2021 at 12:57 am
A foetus isn’t a baby.
Dichotomy & Balance
December 9, 2021 at 1:02 am
@sachamm Infected by post modernism I see.
Christian Soldier
December 9, 2021 at 12:25 am
God protects the innocent when you took their lives. But he has a little something for you. ever heard of wrath ?
Stefan Nikola
December 9, 2021 at 12:40 am
Why don’t we have a culture of birth control instead of a culture of abortion? Wouldn’t a culture of birth control prevent us from being in this philosophical and moral debate over abortion?
sachamm
December 9, 2021 at 12:55 am
“Before you rape and impregnate me, would you please wear this condom?”
Stefan Nikola
December 9, 2021 at 12:57 am
@sachamm – That’s rape. That’s clearly not what I mean by a “culture of birth control.”
Dichotomy & Balance
December 9, 2021 at 1:00 am
@sachamm <- don't listen to this person. They're taking an extreme extreme situation and attempting to make others think irrationally. They're wrong
Surfer Rosa
December 9, 2021 at 1:05 am
Agreed, I would add, we should be more open minded towards sterilization too. Many women, like myself, either don’t want or have serious doubts about childbearing yet it’s not easy at all to find healthcare providers willing to perform sterilization procedures on young childless women 😠
WH1PP3DCR34M
December 9, 2021 at 1:14 am
It is misogynistic to say that I cannot be equal to men unless I have the legal protection to kill my own offspring. I am equal and I am capable.
Tes Reso
December 9, 2021 at 3:28 am
If we are given rights as citizens, and most are citizens by ‘natural born’ clause in the constitution… doesn’t that mean those unborn aren’t citizens and thus don’t have rights?
I always wonder why the rabble-rousers who claim to be such nationalists are pressing this ideology that this ‘alien’ is allowed more rights then a citizen…
Just a thought.
cheeseman0125
December 9, 2021 at 3:39 am
What a garbage talk. Way to paint the whole side as “wanting to control women.” Id expect TED to be better than this. That’s the same as a prolifer saying “they just want to kill babies.” It’s so intellectually dishonest it makes me sick
James Ruscheinski
December 9, 2021 at 3:56 am
God / Christ substantive human rights confederation unity
Toni
December 9, 2021 at 4:03 am
The USA is totally backward. Regarding religion and human rights. I live in Australia where these subjects simply don’t arise. They were settled more than fifty years ago.
clocksforsale
December 9, 2021 at 7:28 am
You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. In Australia, abortion is a state issue not federal. In NSW, for example, abortion was explicitly banned under s82 of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW). Abortion in NSW legally took place only because the NSW District Court in R v Wald recognized the exception in the law that allowed abortion in instances where the mother’s life is at risk and read it to also include their mental wellbeing. It was only in 2019 that the NSW Parliament passed the Abortion Law Reform Act that revoked s82. The Americans who would like to see Roe v Wade overturned simply want each state to decide for themselves, like the Australian system.
Toni
December 9, 2021 at 7:33 am
@clocksforsale How ofter are women stopped from having abortions in Australia? NEVER! The law has been ignored for decades. I’ll be very surprised if someone had to go interstate for an abortion in this country but if you did, you’d have got it no trouble at all. There wouldn’t have been a church rally outside the hospital.
1John 4:6
December 9, 2021 at 6:16 pm
She says from a Covid concentration camp
Toni
December 9, 2021 at 6:27 pm
@1John 4:6 You don’t know the meaning of the word TRUTH.
PixelTiger
December 10, 2021 at 12:26 am
@Toni considering you are chill with murdering babies, you dont know the meaning of the word “ethics”
rose2dimples
December 9, 2021 at 4:16 am
America will turn into Gilead! Simple
Toni
December 9, 2021 at 4:18 am
This woman knows what she’s talking about. None of this has anything to do with politics or any church. You shouldn’t have to go a preacher or a church leader to find out what you should do to your body. IT’S YOURS.
JB8
December 9, 2021 at 11:59 pm
@mowgli2071 not lying. It’s an established definition. Look it up
mowgli2071
December 10, 2021 at 12:43 am
@JB8 It is a lie. You can try to launder your ideology, but abortion is murder.
“Hurr durr muh definition from institutions that my fellow baby-murdering, pro-abortion assbags have infiltrated says it’s not a lie, look it up”
mowgli2071
December 10, 2021 at 12:45 am
@JB8 but if you’re going to play definition games, then fetus is merely one stage of childhood.
In fact, “foetus” is Latin for “offspring”.
But I’m sure you’ll try to find other excuses to justify your repugnant ideology.
JB8
December 10, 2021 at 1:18 am
@mowgli2071 am aware. And not playing your idiot games
mowgli2071
December 10, 2021 at 1:21 am
@JB8 the one playing idiot games is the liar trying to deny that abortion is murder.
Vincent Helbig
December 9, 2021 at 5:51 am
@TED when you invite a pro life activist to your show? I would love to hear the arguments of the other side. Since you invited pro choice it would be just fair..
Pacmon Kruz
December 9, 2021 at 11:07 am
If they had a good argument… and you want to tell every woman what to do with their bodies and now you TED to be fair ?
sachamm
December 9, 2021 at 10:49 pm
Yeah! And how many space talks have I heard on TED, it’s about time we hear a flat earther talk, it’s only fair!
andrew payette
December 9, 2021 at 6:33 am
I don’t care that it’s potential babies. It could be a 47 year old adult for all I care.
The debate is about body autonomy – a person should never be forced to sacrifice their body for someone else.
Mark Armage
December 9, 2021 at 7:25 am
Unfortunately it’s called responsibility, kid. Don’t get pregnant, then.
Overwhelming majority of cases of pregnancy is very much result from willingly intercourse.
Grow up.
mowgli2071
December 9, 2021 at 9:25 am
I don’t care whether or not you “care that it’s potential babies”.
Because it’s not “potential babies”, that’s a child that you’re murdering.
You can lie and say that it’s not, but that’s what it is.
Even the slimeball who argued your repugnant side’s case before he supreme court admitted in a Freudian slip that it’s a baby.
andrew payette
December 9, 2021 at 10:11 am
@mowgli2071 You’re murdering a woman’s right to chose what a woman does with her body.
Pacmon Kruz
December 9, 2021 at 11:05 am
@Mark Armage I’m guessing you’re the person.
Mark Armage
December 9, 2021 at 7:31 am
Sick woman. Maybe they should’ve invited the real Roe when she was alive.
Roe v Wade was so sick that even the woman used in the lawsuit turned against it.
niki magelakis
December 9, 2021 at 10:30 am
All those people who choose to be parents, should have to pass Psychological tests, to become parents.
Reema Gul Sha Ali khan
December 9, 2021 at 1:44 pm
You are right 👍👍
Reema Gul Sha Ali khan
December 9, 2021 at 1:36 pm
Amazing 😍😍😍😍
Doctor Goop
December 9, 2021 at 2:04 pm
Reproductive Freedom – what a nice phrase – who could possibly be against FREEDOM – it’s the foundation on which their country is built. But those words are a nice way of saying murdering unborn human beings. Plain and simple.
bear paw
December 9, 2021 at 2:41 pm
And the final step should be eliminating the supreme court alltogether because these goons weren’t elected by anybody, they were implanted by an incredibly corrupt system through money funneled by right wing think tanks who want perpetual corporate rule over America.
Rocky Mtn-Thai
December 9, 2021 at 3:37 pm
Who’s kidding who? If Roe vs Wade is overturned, the only change will be a safe clinical procedure will again move to back alleys, and women will die. Abortion has existed since the dawn of humanity and will continue unabated, regardless of public and legal opinion.
Dave
December 9, 2021 at 4:04 pm
You folks need to change your phrasing to “right to terminate.” What’s the purpose of the euphemism he you feel it’s morally just? Stand on it and own it. Your position is that the government should protect the right for someone to choose their “lifestyle” over someone’s LIFE. JUST SAY THAT!
1John 4:6
December 9, 2021 at 6:14 pm
I assume you are a male or some sort of sub-species of male because you use a male name. MALES AREN’T ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT ABORTION. PERIOD.
😉
Alpaca Male
December 9, 2021 at 4:15 pm
Reproductive freedom, as in, freedom to destroy a life
sachamm
December 9, 2021 at 10:41 pm
70,000 women die each year because they undertake unsafe abortions. But I guess you care more about foetus’ lives than women’s lives.
aserta
December 9, 2021 at 5:42 pm
US is a disgrace to the Human charter at this point.
BathshebaE1
December 9, 2021 at 5:45 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong but won’t abortion still be allowed during the first 14 weeks of pregnancy?
Fabian Bogg
December 9, 2021 at 7:53 pm
You are somehow right. What overturning Roe vs Wade does is to put the power to decide on this issue back into the peoples hands. In other words, this issue could be decided through legislation.
Consequently, some states would have stricter abortion laws, other would have the same laws.
It is important to understand that overturning Roe vs Wade and Casey is not about outlawing abortion, it is about whether to let the people decide on the issue.
1John 4:6
December 9, 2021 at 6:12 pm
“It’s all about controlling women” she says to a row of women wearing masks.
Toni
December 9, 2021 at 6:34 pm
Oh boy, it’s alright for you to spit at them from a distance.
Toni
December 9, 2021 at 6:36 pm
250million dead sperm every time you shoot into a woman. How many have you killed? Murderer….
David Hunt
December 9, 2021 at 6:54 pm
I’m surprised all these bodily sovereignty left checks support vac mandates. No consistent ethics is how we got to this being an issue.
guozhen pan
December 9, 2021 at 11:22 pm
It’s not about control women, it’s about man control their lust
sachamm
December 9, 2021 at 11:26 pm
Should we force a father to donate a kidney to a dying son?
If not… why would you want to force a mother to be host for an embryo?
ME3
December 9, 2021 at 11:47 pm
NOTICE you refuse to even SUGGEST a mother be FORCED to do something.
ME3
December 9, 2021 at 11:46 pm
Why is it OK to force a man into servitude? If he can’t pay child support for a baby he never wanted he can go to jail.
WHY NOT WOMEN TOO? Have a baby you can’t afford go to jail and put the baby up for adoption.
Hopefully the father will ADOPT the baby because he will NEVER have to see the mother.
Why is it OK to force needles and masks onto HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS?
What about MY BODY, MY RIGHT?
Pamela Shoemaker
December 10, 2021 at 1:15 am
This is the beginning of losing democracy because our right to our own power is being taken away.
kestrel archer
December 10, 2021 at 2:14 am
If Republican manages to overturn Roe v Wade than this marked a great starting point for Conservative to re-concervativise America, just point out everything culturally left to be SJW and the public will follow along. Not hard, since the liberal can’t stop backstabbing themselves by holding to wokeness
Val Davis
December 10, 2021 at 3:23 pm
The Democrats will just expand the Supreme Court to restore women’s rights that are being threatened.
kestrel archer
December 10, 2021 at 3:42 pm
@Val Davis yea, i don’t think the Democrat have enough backbone to fight for that, the midterm going to be a blood bath where Republican will take the house and the senate. Joe Biden failed in the build back better plan by watering it down.
P.s. this is coming from a leftist btw
Val Davis
December 10, 2021 at 4:22 pm
@kestrel archer It won’t happen in the near future, but it’ll happen when more progressives are elected to congress. The majority of Americans support democratic policies, so they just need to elect more people like AOC and Omar, etc.
PS: I doubt you’re a leftist given your use of “SJW” and “wokeness.” Left leaning people realize that Biden’s agenda hasn’t passed because of Republican obstruction and Sinema and Manchin being bought off.
kestrel archer
December 10, 2021 at 4:43 pm
@Val Davis I’m a leftist that vote for Bernie that prioritize economic policy over culture war issues. That’s the Hallmark of being leftist. The one that doesn’t mind SJW and wokeness are liberal.
I highly doubt justice democrat style of politician like the squad cdn succeed again given that they fail to defends the Build Back Better plan getting watered down.
Val Davis
December 10, 2021 at 5:17 pm
@kestrel archer SJW is used as a pejorative to attack anyone who cares about issues like racism, sexism and bigotry. “Woke” is not even used by young people. Like SJW, it’s used as a pejorative to attack people for being aware of the way sexism and racism have influenced American politics.
And as I mentioned before, it’s not the Squad’s fault that BBB got watered down. Joe Manchin and Sinema are opposed to the bill because they’re paid off. With Republican obstruction and fake democrats like Manchin and Sinema, Democrats can’t pass anything. That’s why they need more people like AOC in both chambers to push forward the boldest legislation.
Shapoopie Doopie
December 10, 2021 at 2:45 am
I thought people who did TED talks were usually more factually accurate? All this lady did was spew liberal talking points and was extremely inaccurate with most of what she’s saying. There wasn’t even any argument given about the supposed 3 things used by prolife groups against abortion. Just popular assumptions and opinions about what pro life groups do or think. She clearly has never spoken to a pro life group or person lol. She straight up lied about what’s in the Texas bill too. And if clinics offer SOOO many other healthcare services, why are they completely shutting down once abortions are banned? This was one of the most useless TED talks I’ve ever watched…
Earl Miller
December 10, 2021 at 3:51 am
It’s my body I can do as I want with it…. all abortion supporters say that… well then if so then I should be allowed free reign to shoot meth into it … my body my choice… not???? They will never legalize meth…
Val Davis
December 10, 2021 at 3:22 pm
False equivalence
kestrel archer
December 10, 2021 at 3:39 pm
They should decriminalized all drugs, the fact you think that there’s no section of leftist who’s not in favour legalizing, taxing and regulating drugs show how much you know about your own opponent
Val Davis
December 10, 2021 at 9:03 am
This is why the courts matter so much. The way to protect women’s rights and minorities is to expand the Supreme Court to 15 justices and add 200 seats the lower courts to offset the unqualified justices that Trump nominated and the Senate appointed.
Clarice Cao
December 10, 2021 at 9:25 am
STOP CONTROLLING WOMEN! my body and my uterus belong to myself
Jurjen Bos
December 10, 2021 at 11:59 am
I remember the good old days when the US was ahead of everybody else with almost everything.
Evan Underwood
December 10, 2021 at 3:35 pm
We are. We’re leading the charge in respecting life and rooting out baby killing psychopaths in society.
Master Sonogashira
December 10, 2021 at 11:39 pm
@Evan Underwood so what’s next? Creationism along side with evolution? I’m sure that will further the study into biology
Jose
December 11, 2021 at 12:04 am
@Evan Underwood going back to the dark ages?
Jason_c_o
December 11, 2021 at 12:33 am
@Evan Underwood Respecting life as in respecting the mother?
Mo. Ka.
December 11, 2021 at 11:44 am
@Master Sonogashira is an argument against murder or theft religous too?
Obviously it’s the debate is not over if you’re still arguing
The people who opposed slavery were alsl motivated by religion. What’s your point?
Timothy Matthews
December 11, 2021 at 2:09 pm
@Master Sonogashira I replied to you, but Leftist YouTube removed my comment.
Jason_c_o
December 11, 2021 at 2:26 pm
@Mo. Ka. it’s not a baby.
Master Sonogashira
December 11, 2021 at 8:03 pm
@Timothy Matthews then learn how to get around it. My comments get deleted all the time
Master Sonogashira
December 11, 2021 at 8:23 pm
@Mo. Ka. to a certain degree, yes. Absolute crime is an old concept, modern justice is build on the fact that all crimes are conditional and should consider the situation when it was committed. The debate is not over on when the cut-off is for abortion, but it is agreed upon by all developed country (aside from UK) that abortion based on social or economical reason is not morally wrong.
You need to know that Supreme Court of a country is never meant to be used to determine whether something is morally wrong, but a guideline to ruling and sentencing. Something like abortion ban, which deprive the freedom of individual, can only exist as a constitution, not some decision to be overturned years later.
This is why I found American law ridiculously flawed when it comes to constitution laws. Constitution is meant to be vague, then interpret and revise based on the contemporary climate. All laws restrict individual freedom to exchange for some collective security. Yet in your constitution it was clearly statement that individual freedom should be protected to the most extend. This is why even with all those gun violence your government never abandoned the second amendment. Yet deprivation of medical freedom seems to be okay. As a Canadian it’s really hard to see what exactly Americans consider as “law” vs “constitution”. It seems to me your justices just choose whatever suit their political benefit.
Richard Teran
December 10, 2021 at 1:53 pm
I 100% disagree with her stance, but at least she’s honest.
Although she presents her emotional position to her audience, she is a lawyer who has argued at SCOTUS, and understands that the Constitution in no way, actually includes some hidden right to abortion – so it will be overturned. She knows that the emotional approach, full of its lies and misrepresentations works fine with her audience and to a degree in the court of public opinion (supported by the Left leaning media and social media big tech) – but it can go nowhere in a real court like SCOTUS.
She KNOWS that state constitutions ALSO have no hidden “right” to abortion – so what is needed to have abortion in each state – requires a “social movement” that elects people to pass such laws. SCOTUS will no longer pass these laws for them.
Fancy Forest Person
December 10, 2021 at 4:29 pm
Same with assisted suicide, death penalty, and self-defense laws. Some states do not even give you the right to defend your life with deadly force against a home invasion. Only 23 states adopted the castle doctrine. It’s unimaginable.
It’s terrible that people are subject to such whims, depending on where they live. Moving is difficult and expensive, and leaving family behind can be traumatic. But the message we all have to accept is move where you see fit. I prefer personal freedoms, and reside accordingly, but I couldn’t imagine having to move my entire life for personal rights. I wouldn’t want to live around the poverty and social problems that are caused by restrictions on individual right either though. It’s not just abortion we should be concerned with, it’s all laws that restrict our right to develop and live our life as we choose. It’s shocking how little some Americans value life in a free nation.
That’s not to be misconstrued as a pro-life stance. Bodily autonomy comes first, and nothing has a right to another’s body, under any circumstance. Call it a castle doctrine of the body. An intruder is not legally allowed to enter your home just because you left the door unlocked. In my state, you can kill someone’s for doing that.
Richard Teran
December 10, 2021 at 5:28 pm
@Fancy Forest Person Most babies that are aborted are not uninvited intruders. In NO state, can you open your door and bring someone into your home – then kill them because you decided you don’t want them there afterall. – and THAT is how abortion is mostly used in this country.
If you want exeptions for rape (less than 1% of abortions) then I guess that might go along with your example of a castle doctrine of a woman’s body.
Fancy Forest Person
December 10, 2021 at 5:44 pm
@Richard Teran I very much disagree. If a woman doesn’t want a baby in her body, it’s an unwanted intruder. We have to consider cases of failed contraception too. And instances of fetal deformities. It doesn’t make any sense to force pregnancy in any circumstance though. The world needs wanted children, because pro-lifers are not out there fostering the unwanted. I volunteer in that system. It changes a person.
Richard Teran
December 10, 2021 at 7:23 pm
@Fancy Forest Person If you volunteer in that system, then you are fully aware that effectively 100% of children placed for adoption at the time of deciding on abortion (while pregnant) – get several families FIGHTING OVER THEM.
The women who don’t want to raise a child – do not have abortion as their only option. They can place the child up for adoption while pregnant.
They are choosing between “Stretch Marks vs Kill The Baby”. That’s what it comes down to.
Jason_c_o
December 11, 2021 at 6:01 am
@Richard Teran Imagine trying to conceive for over a year. Then, finally, you see that little plus. You wait, take another test, and when it’s positive you can’t wait to tell everyone. You buy the clothes, you paint the room… 6 months in and you’re at a regular checkup, but your doctor comes into the room with a poorly hidden frown. They tell you there’s a complication and that, if you don’t abort the pregnancy, it’s very likely you’ll both die. Now make that choice.
Val Davis
December 11, 2021 at 8:02 am
It’s all about whether or not you respect a woman’s right to autonomy. It’s her choice whether to proceed with a pregnancy or not.
Richard Teran
December 11, 2021 at 2:56 pm
@Val Davis “Autonomy” does not included stealing other peoples’ stuff, or harming other people. The debate is whether or not a woman’s “autonomy” reaches to the point of killing her offspring. Some people think it should and some people don’t.
It is NOT a simple thing – but the issue right now is whether or not the Constitution says anything about it – and it does not, according to all serious Constitutional students.
Overturning Roe does not make abortion illegal – it places it in the hands of each state. So, if you live in a state where the majority of people feel one way about it, it will go that way in that state.
Richard Teran
December 11, 2021 at 3:02 pm
@Jason_c_o What is your point? I have MANY pro-life friends and have NEVER met one who would insist that a woman in that position must keep her baby.
Using that example to justify recreational abortion would be silly though – so I’m sure that’s not what you’re trying to do.
So what IS your point with that example?
Jason_c_o
December 11, 2021 at 3:12 pm
@Richard Teran “Recreational abortion” 🤣 JFC the audacity of some of you people.
I’m not interested in talking with someone so disingenuous and eager to poison the well.
Evan Underwood
December 10, 2021 at 3:31 pm
Lol, the feminazi death cultists are getting really mad 😂😂
Val Davis
December 10, 2021 at 4:17 pm
Oh great another MAGAt. lol
SirQL8
December 10, 2021 at 5:54 pm
The argument i haven’t heard is the one of ownership. Technically, the material used to create a baby is 1/2 owned by the male donor, the other 1/2 by the female. However, by combining these two ‘investments’ or ‘donations’, a new human entity is created at conception, owned by no one but the baby itself since the materials (sperm and egg) were (in most cases) voluntarily given. By law, a human entity in the US has rights and cannot be summarily executed, the essence of abortion. The real question is one of hosting accomodations provided by the female during pregnancy and then any other adult guardian without which the baby human cannot survive. Rightful compensation by the male donor is reasonable up until such time an adult can be procured as a guardian. Terminating this accomodation by anyone at anytime during the baby’s existence until 18 is unlawful.
Jason_c_o
December 11, 2021 at 1:03 am
Wow this was… interesting.
A load of made up bullshit, but interesting.
This isn’t actually meant to convince anyone of anything, right?
SirQL8
December 10, 2021 at 5:54 pm
The argument i haven’t heard is the one of ownership. Technically, the material used to create a baby is 1/2 owned by the male donor, the other 1/2 by the female. However, by combining these two ‘investments’ or ‘donations’, a new human entity is created at conception, owned by no one but the baby itself since the materials (sperm and egg) were (in most cases) voluntarily given. By law, a human entity in the US has rights and cannot be summarily executed, the essence of abortion. The real question is one of hosting accomodations provided by the female during pregnancy and then any other adult guardian without which the baby human cannot survive. Rightful compensation for this accomodation by the male donor is reasonable up until such time an adult can be procured as a guardian. Terminating this accomodation by anyone at anytime during the baby’s existence until 18 is unlawful.
SirQL8
December 11, 2021 at 7:06 pm
@Jason_c_o Only by those with critical thinking skills, of which I deduce by your lack of a rational response, you have little to none.
Jason_c_o
December 11, 2021 at 7:10 pm
@SirQL8 Hahaha okay bud.
SirQL8
December 11, 2021 at 8:11 pm
@Jason_c_o there you go again. Merry Christmas, Sir.
Adventures Inthebay
December 10, 2021 at 7:49 pm
Birth control pills just aren’t healthy…hello breast cancer??? Use a condom.
jls2292
December 10, 2021 at 8:03 pm
Look how black her eyes are
Jesse g
December 10, 2021 at 8:58 pm
She had such terrible arguments. 😂
Calling people who are against abortions hypocrites doesn’t make abortions moral, legal or justified. 😂 And you don’t need religion to know it’s wrong to murder your child because you can’t keep your legs closed.
Jason_c_o
December 11, 2021 at 12:55 am
Speaking of bad arguments. ^
Val Davis
December 11, 2021 at 2:29 am
Oh look, another uneducated and ignorant right winger.
Jesse g
December 11, 2021 at 2:38 am
@Val Davis iGnOrAnT
Jesse g
December 11, 2021 at 2:40 am
@Jason_c_o almost positive that was directed at me 😂 always great to see commies eat their own
Jason_c_o
December 11, 2021 at 3:45 am
@Jesse g Yeah it was a misfire.
Love how you did it anyway with “commies” though, you tool.
You know Communist governments are more right-wing, right?
Val Davis
December 11, 2021 at 5:58 am
@Jesse g OK MAGAt.
Hesam Moosapour
December 10, 2021 at 9:58 pm
So much wokesim , fallacies , and feminist propaganda packed all in here.
Caterfree10
December 10, 2021 at 10:28 pm
Ma’am, I want to think the sudden gender neutral language at the end is genuine, but you just spent the rest of the damn talk acting like all of us who can get pregnant are women, when we resolutely are not. This two faced crap is not allyship. Either step up the gender neutral language or leave us out of your damn mouth.
JB8
December 11, 2021 at 4:12 am
Word salad. Express yourself clearly. What is your point?
SuperSoniQ
December 10, 2021 at 11:04 pm
So she claims that people who are against abortion are not interested in infant mortality? What a bunch of crap. In her world, you wouldn’t have to worry about that, as the babies would be killed in the womb. Have any of the pro abortion crowd every heard of adoption? Have any in the pro abortion crowd aware that since Roe vs Wade there have been 52,000,000 babies killed? Thats govt sponsored murder btw. That puts the usa right up there with Stalin, Hitler, and Mao. If Roe was eliminated, it would be up to each state to decide, which is exactly how it should have been. As it is now, we as a nation are on a path to judgement. Don’t think thats a big deal? Ask the Israelites.
R. Murdoch
December 11, 2021 at 12:20 am
It’s embarrassing how my fellow Americans still have to argue over conception. Greetings from Australia
Flap Jackson
December 11, 2021 at 7:59 pm
I was friends years ago in Maryland US with some twin Murdochs who names both meant “king” and had R as their first letter in their names. One of them played drums, the other trumpet.
My name begins with C. I lived in the same neighborhood as them.
You wouldn’t happen to be one of them, or related, would you?
grriot
December 12, 2021 at 6:25 pm
Was it particularly difficult to move there? I’ve lost my final shred of patience with this country.
corey anderson
December 11, 2021 at 6:45 am
Gods will be done.
corey anderson
December 11, 2021 at 6:48 am
Would have been a mind bender if the audience was full of nothing but people saved from abortion. There’s always another perspective
Jessi Torres
December 11, 2021 at 7:42 am
I agree that it is a new perspective. At the same time, if that were the case I think it would be appropriate to discuss how our foster care system which many unwanted kids are placed in fails them.
corey anderson
December 11, 2021 at 4:38 pm
@Jessi Torres I think the government, and randoms should stop trying to regulate everything… including childcare! Let each person decide for themselves; punish them when they fail
Red88Rex
December 11, 2021 at 8:54 am
Christians want their own version of sharia law. Amazing how they flip out over Muslims doing it yet they want the same authoritarian rule! Keep your fairy tales out of our laws!
Adventurous One
December 11, 2021 at 8:59 am
Give your life to Jesus Christ. Believe and pray:
*God, I know I’m a sinner. I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, died on the cross for my sins and arose again on the 3rd day. I confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and accept Him as my Savior. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.*
It’s about making a choice. Really believe. Speak it aloud and mean it.
Flap Jackson
December 11, 2021 at 7:51 pm
Roe v Wade is being dismantled because it was bad law.
The radical abortion lover in this video talks about how ugly things will be without Roe v Wade, but she conveniently leaves out the ugliness of abortion; the shredded bodies of unborn innocent human beings who never did anything to deserve being shredded into “medical waste”.
Abortion proponents are evil, twisted, and deplorable.
Val Davis
December 12, 2021 at 9:27 am
“Evil, twisted, and deplorable” are adjectives that apply to uneducated and brainwashed Trumpanzees.
By the way, Roe was decided 7-2 on a Supreme Court that included 5 Republicans. It’s not like it barely got a 5-4 decision like it will be when it’s overturned.
Just remember, too, that 4 of the conservative justices that vote to overturn Roe barely got appointed to the Supreme Court. Not one Democrat voted for ACB, one Democrat voted for Kavanaugh, two voted for Gorsuch, and Thomas only got 52 votes as well.
When Roe is overturned, it’ll just give even greater incentive to the Democrats to expand the Supreme Court and entire federal judiciary.
Flap Jackson
December 12, 2021 at 4:28 pm
@Val Davis
Mangled and dead are adjectives which apply to the babies aborted by callous, irresponsible pro baby killers.
Val Davis
December 13, 2021 at 5:13 am
@Flap Jackson Swing and a miss. Try responding to my comment and then you might be considered educated.
Flap Jackson
December 13, 2021 at 2:40 pm
@Val Davis
Lmao!
Forgive me for laughing, but you talking about being educated is truly laughable.
Educate yourself on the science, babe.
Full Forged
December 11, 2021 at 10:38 pm
It’s over. Roe v Wade is over. Let it burn. Let the people that kill babies burn. No joke anymore. We are passed a gentleness.
Euan’s brown swirl
December 11, 2021 at 10:41 pm
you’re a wrongen, stop crying about it
Full Forged
December 11, 2021 at 10:44 pm
@Euan’s brown swirl Crying? Nah. You’re just waking up the people who are willing to die to change this.
Euan’s brown swirl
December 11, 2021 at 10:48 pm
@Full Forged Waking up? no mate, you lot have been screaming how bad abortions are since the dawn of time, you haven’t let anyone sleep! Everyone finds you annoying. Every other developed nation laughs at America on this issue. You’re a leach on society, a stain in history and I dont see why you cant see that reproductive rights helps the world progress.
Sanna Perkiö
December 12, 2021 at 1:09 am
Poland is so strict about abortion. So sad.. poor women! 💔😿
tommy sypher
December 12, 2021 at 1:44 am
I can’t believe that people let this happen
Val Davis
December 12, 2021 at 5:44 am
Blame Mitch Mcconnell. He blocked Merrick Garland from joining the Supreme Court in 2016. Had Garland been given a fair hearing, Gorsuch or Kavanaugh would never been on the court.
tommy sypher
December 12, 2021 at 1:45 am
elf’s been knocked off of 109 shelves – yet keep trying to genocide gentiles ;/
Talbot McLaws
December 12, 2021 at 2:59 am
“still other women will carry their unintended pregnancies to term”. She clearly hasn’t learned much since Sesame St. The power of motherhood can turn the unintentional into a miracle.
Bess Smith
December 12, 2021 at 7:31 am
People who wish to control women believe they are so free that they insist that their freedom includes the freedom to deny us ours. (Charles P Pierce)
Aaron Johnston
December 12, 2021 at 2:52 pm
Pathetic attempt
SvM Was The Sheet
December 12, 2021 at 4:49 pm
Wooo!! Let’s make child murder mainstream. Now that’s equality.
Zachary Clark
December 12, 2021 at 5:49 pm
I am pro life but Abortion is a state matter. The 9th and 10th amendments are there so there would be no need for an overly active Supreme Court. To any pro choice people. Would you rather have your rights be determined by a court that is so easily swayed over decades or have them backed up and protected by state laws or by Constitutional Amendment? Repeal Roe and Casey
Val Davis
December 13, 2021 at 2:17 am
Roe was decided 7-2 and there’s a reason why it’s stood for 50 years. It’s because the court was ideologically balanced. There’s a reason why it’s likely to be overturned now, and that’s because McConnell blocked Obama’s pick Garland from joining the court in 2016, nuked the filibuster for Supreme Court picks to allow Gorsuch and Kavanaugh to join the bench, and then in brazen hypocrisy, pushed through ACB 3 weeks before the election.
ACB, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch received a combined THREE votes from the Democrats. Compare that to Antonin Scalia with 98 votes and RBG with 93 votes.
There’s no legitimacy to the Supreme Court now, and even the lower courts are illegitimate considering how many unqualifies judges were appointed during Trump’s term.
Roe is gone, but that’s going to galvanize Democrats to expand the Supreme Court and restore it once they have the votes to do so.
Zachary Clark
December 13, 2021 at 2:35 pm
@Val Davis The Judiciary does not become illegitimate simply because of who appoints who and how narrowly their appointed. Biden is appointing a lot of lower court positions in his first year yet he keeps having his butt handed to him ruling after ruling. You had plenty of chances to avoid this situation. Ginsburg could have swallowed her pride and listened to Obama and not wait for Hillary to retire. Hillary could have been a better candidate and win. Nothing however changes that Roe was bad law and the Supreme Court was the wrong venue for the pro choice movement to go too. They talk about government should not meddle with their reproductive rights while entrusting them to a body of 9 persons that could easily sway due to changing times or changing appointments. This day was inevitable from the moment Roe was decided.
mateo wizard easton
December 12, 2021 at 6:49 pm
Fetuses are not babies, They don’t have thought’s, feelings or emotions and are not able to develop consciousness until 24 -25 weeks into pregnancy so It doesn’t matter if you kill it.
Rockcandy 21
December 12, 2021 at 11:36 pm
PLEASE somebody point to the constitution and show me where it says ” Women have the right to abortion” ??
I mean i cant even put certain substances in my body unless I get a prescription from a doctor and it requires me to meet certain qualifications so dont try to say theres a “right to medical privacy”
Val Davis
December 13, 2021 at 5:12 am
Who cares if it isn’t specifically written in the constitution? Roe was decided 7-2 and has stood for 50 years. The only reason it’s under threat now is because McConnell nuked the filibuster for Supreme Court picks to appoint extremist Republican justices.
Ligia Sarmiento
December 13, 2021 at 12:27 am
Hello
Ramya A
December 13, 2021 at 1:57 am
Funny how all these courts, governments and religious folks only go after women’s bodies to assert control and power. Why don’t they impose mandatory vasectomy ( which can be opted to be reversible anytime) on the men instead? That would be far less damaging to anyone’s life instead of what’s being done to women. Although I’m pretty sure if these mandatory vasectomies happened, a lot of men would whine and go “woe is me! My human rights and bodily autonomy are being violated”. Also ironic how it’s a lot of white officials who are imposing these abortion restrictions ( especially considering how whites are now turning into a minority and losing their racial privilege quickly as more people become socially and politically aware)
ALSO take note that when it comes to the general population the courts and governments and these right wingers want to preach about how women should not abort their pregnancy but when it comes to people of colour and even more so when it’s native indigenous tribes, there are forced abortions, sterilizations and poor medical care meted out to the women of these communities. Hypocritical bullshit much?
Val Davis
December 13, 2021 at 5:03 am
It’s sexist BS. I totally agree that it’s hypocritical. The way to fix this though is to get enough progressives in Congress, nuke the legislative filibuster and expand the entire judiciary with liberal justices.
watgaanhieraan
December 13, 2021 at 2:48 am
How about people can decide whether to abort or not and whether to take the vaccine or not and they can defend themselves with a semi auto rifle or not?
danieldjz
December 13, 2021 at 2:16 pm
Abortion is killing unborn babies. Period.
Kim Sullivan
December 13, 2021 at 4:08 pm
All lives matter. 🙏
Myra R
December 13, 2021 at 5:05 pm
Good that they will limit the murder of innocent little babies in the womb! This woman annoyed me after 10 seconds. She doesn’t have any arguments in favor of abortion based on logics.
Redavix
December 13, 2021 at 8:04 pm
I’m pro life but I do think you should only get to abort in cases of rape or death due to pregnancy. I can’t express how evil it is to kill a fetus just because you didn’t want to be a parent. The images of what an abortion looks like is disgusting. Makes me feel weak
james kirk
December 13, 2021 at 11:06 pm
No one has the right to kill a person. It has nothing to do with women’s rights. You don’t have the right to kill. You left want to protect and save everything. Save the trees, save the whales, save the earth, save people. But you think you have the right to kill babies by the millions. All women who request an abortion should be forced to see their ultrasound and hear the heartbeat. That life is not yours to take.