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What Wikipedia Teaches Us About Balancing Truth and Beliefs | Katherine Maher | TED

Even with public trust at an all-time low, Wikipedia continues to maintain people’s confidence. How do they do it? Former CEO of Wikimedia Foundation Katherine Maher delves into the transparent, adaptable and community-building ways the online encyclopedia brings free and reliable information to the public — while also accounting for bias and difference of opinion.…

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Even with public trust at an all-time low, Wikipedia continues to maintain people’s confidence. How do they do it? Former CEO of Wikimedia Foundation Katherine Maher delves into the transparent, adaptable and community-building ways the online encyclopedia brings free and reliable information to the public — while also accounting for bias and difference of opinion. “The seeds of our disagreement can actually become the roots of our common purpose,” she says.

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  1. Xyril Dan Manuel

    June 28, 2022 at 12:18 pm

    i just want to say, she is incredibly articulate and verbose. she speaks like a Wikipedia article

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    June 28, 2022 at 12:25 pm

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    June 28, 2022 at 12:46 pm

    the business model is not to maximise profit – we have learnt that profit hides the truth. The greater the profit margin the less ethical the organisation.

  6. MEGA TETRIS-SAN

    June 28, 2022 at 12:49 pm

    What reality do YOU live in? (For discussion purposes)

  7. Sergey Nebolsin

    June 28, 2022 at 1:00 pm

    Что можно понять из этого видео. У Википедии, проблемы. Википедия теряет доверие пользователей. Все остальное словесный мусор. Все.

  8. iCan Help

    June 28, 2022 at 1:04 pm

    opinions

  9. Nichole

    June 28, 2022 at 1:16 pm

    Wikipedia info can be changed. College professors do not recognize Wikipedia as a trusted source of information and therefore do not accept any papers written with info sourced from there. This was told to me by a family member’s girlfriend who attends a well-known medical college. I don’t get my information from Wiki because of this which is what started a conversation between my family member and his girlfriend.

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    June 28, 2022 at 1:23 pm

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  11. Eric Prince

    June 28, 2022 at 1:30 pm

    Wikipedia is a propaganda weapon now, only establishment narratives can be on Wikipedia.

  12. John Q. Public

    June 28, 2022 at 1:40 pm

    If you believe anything this woman is saying you are part of the problem.

  13. Winston O'Boogie

    June 28, 2022 at 2:01 pm

    Beliefs and unbeliefs are equally flimsy and have no bearing on the truth. Humility is the beginning of knowledge, wisdom, and truth.

  14. Paul Roth

    June 28, 2022 at 2:23 pm

    am i the only one thinking this talk is showcasing a somewhat dangerous post-modern utilitarian ideology? relativistic concepts of truth and norms and openended words and dull definitions like “strong rules” “transparency” mean next to nothing in the scope of the internet (today), if your goal is “getting it right most of the time” . don’t get me wrong, i use wikipedia a lot and i love the project. but this talk could have been such a great starting point for a conversation about misinformation and filter bubbles etc. from a unique standpoint nonetheless. i don’t claim ill intent or malice, but this entire talk just seems so very naive and blind on at least one eye.

    • lacosasuper

      June 29, 2022 at 10:44 am

      But isn’t it truth that if humans need a place to put truths than it’s better to be the most shareable truths? I think that humans must have the humility to recognize that our concept of truth IS right now what the most people think it’s true. I think that the goal of wikipedia is to change this into “the minimum set of well-known information”

    • Paul Roth

      June 29, 2022 at 2:47 pm

      @lacosasuper i’m with you ideologically. but wouldn’t you agree that wikipedia is an excellent enabler for any kind of misinformation? (from low level fraud all the way to cheating on your résumé, to altering or censoring history/culture/…) i’m not proposing a better system, which i don’t know how that would look like, nor am i against wikipedia or the amazing idea of transcultural global knowledge transfer and the empowerment which that means. i’m all for non profit companies with the goal of a flat hierarchical, non-elitist organizational structure. and of course i’m totally for a free of charge, public education platform and so on, but the talk just glosses over the subject of fake news, information bubbles and misinformation. i find that to be kind of the most important thing/one of the biggest problems of our time, connected to almost everything social/economic/political. its all part of the unwanted problems and tasks the information age has handed us in the last 20 odd years, together with all its perks and benefits. but ist just not mentioned. to me that’s kind of like if the wiki entry for “jesus of nazareth”just didn’t say that he was killed by his peers…

  15. Thankful Lally

    June 28, 2022 at 2:34 pm

    Great. Thanks for sharing. 💕💕

  16. sapienz

    June 28, 2022 at 3:51 pm

    You mean truth and lies(Or “Beliefs ” as in title)

  17. Atheistbatman

    June 28, 2022 at 4:07 pm

    Balance?
    There is only the truth no balancing required

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    June 28, 2022 at 4:23 pm

    [citation needed]

  19. Willful Mystic

    June 28, 2022 at 5:00 pm

    If each of us can have different truths, they become opinions not truths. If truth were flexible then there would never be a sound argument as the premises of an argument would only be opinion and may be valid, but not sound. I think you’ve just confused the situation completely bypassing Logic. Minimum Viable Truth (MVT) is a delusion.

    • srcarranza

      June 29, 2022 at 1:34 am

      That’s true.

  20. Larpskendya

    June 28, 2022 at 5:33 pm

    Who performed this study in 2019 that she references?

  21. TheScarvig

    June 28, 2022 at 6:54 pm

    wikipedia works because millions of people edit and rewiew the stuff on there and most of them do so independently from eachother.
    the truth can be checked and accepted by any of these people but a lie requires many people to agree on one thing that can not be proven.
    there is only one truth but billions of alternative lies. so the same truth will be told by anyone who decides to tell the truth. but every liar will tell a slightly different lie and that way no lie will be able to gain enough momentum to compete against the truth forever.

    hide a lie and chances are that it will never come up again exactly the same.
    but hide the truth and it can always be found again

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  25. armed alone depressed

    June 29, 2022 at 2:08 am

    Wikipedia is nothing but lies.

  26. freesk8

    June 29, 2022 at 2:14 am

    Everyone knows that TED is biased to the left. This is why TED viewers have no idea that Wikipedia is also biased to the left. The vast majority of Wikipedia editors are on the left, just like the vast majority of college professors are on the left. Don’t fool yourself. You are living in an echo chamber. You are missing the real debate and valuable ideas that come from non-left sources. What we really need is debate and dialogue, but wikipedia is not where that is happening.

  27. BG Dotty

    June 29, 2022 at 2:23 am

    You literally have whole scammers utilizing wikipedia to create fake pages about themselves and creating personas to further advertise the scam and getting away with millions from people – my truth, values blah blah blah – the fact that it is an open source platform is detrimental to the WORLD!! Anybody being able to edit something with whatever BS they have on a topic is absolutely insane!! TED – big thumbs down on this one

  28. TacSquirrel Casey West

    June 29, 2022 at 3:02 am

    So are we just glossing over the fact that Wikipedia edited several politicians pages to make them look better amidst various scandals and completely scrubbed others off the site completely?

  29. Tyler Steele

    June 29, 2022 at 3:41 am

    I feel like there is potential here for learning lessons from Wikipedia’s policies, but the ideas are half baked and naive. What about when ‘my truth’ is manufactured by big oil and shipped by profiteering media? Where are the forums for productive Wikipedia-esque discourse? I’m losing faith that public opinion has any meaningful impact on policy while so many players are bad faith. Without trust there, it doesn’t matter what people believe our if they agree with each other.

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    June 29, 2022 at 5:01 am

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  31. Scott Moerland

    June 29, 2022 at 10:16 am

    What a pathetic attempt to side step the issues with Wikipedia especially with politics & religion, Her statement that it “Works well” is the biggest proof that this lady had no idea. It works well if your a leftist and you like reading one side of political slander knowing full well that some anonymous editor will prevent any changes to the lies that get put out until the person trying to do the change is eventually banned. No better than the leftist censoring marxists that are running facebook and Twitter atm.

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  32. Noukz

    June 29, 2022 at 1:04 pm

    Funny how this came out at the same time as an Eckhart Tolle’s new video, that talks about the same topic. Once we stop gripping so tightly to our opinion, it becomes waaaay easier to get to the truth, or at least an agreement.

  33. Let's Go Brandon

    June 29, 2022 at 1:28 pm

    Truth is supported by facts. Facts are supported by science. Beliefs are the subjective view of facts.

  34. Charlotte Scott

    June 29, 2022 at 3:30 pm

    Interesting but… climate change deniers don’t give a damn about minimal viable truth. They don’t believe it and won’t search it out.

  35. lê hằng

    June 29, 2022 at 4:41 pm

    Nice

  36. Jason Dashney

    June 30, 2022 at 5:34 am

    Is she out of her mind? Wiki is insanely biased. Good grief. It will address “controversy” along party lines for sure. For right wing types it’s way more damning, and for left wing types it’s either ignored, or only given a tiny mention, usually from a left leaning source calling it nonsense. FWIW I’m politically homeless so I have no team to cheer for except team honesty, and Wiki is disgusting. When left-leaning types are controversial to right leaning types, this gets often ignored as if it’s not a thing. They make it very clear. This woman feels like the ends justify the means. She has absolutely no integrity as a human being because she could not possibly believe what’s coming out of her mouth. It’s absolutely despicable how much people get away with denying objective reality.

  37. Jason Dashney

    June 30, 2022 at 5:49 am

    I wish YouTube would allow us to view the dislike ratio because anybody who understands anything about Wikipedia and has an ounce of integrity with downfall of this because it’s an absolute demonstrable lie on thousands of pages.

    • panda1384

      June 30, 2022 at 7:48 am

      There’s a bringbackyoutubedislikebutton-browser extension which estimates dislikes given it’s userbase. This video sits at 1100 upvotes and 381 downvotes.

  38. Aaron Wilson

    June 30, 2022 at 3:06 pm

    Wikipedia is the most dynamic starting point for any “deep dive” research, investigation, or inquiry.

    An accumulation of thoughts, ideas, and energies on any matter is invaluable and needs to be preserved, protected, and encouraged to grow!

    • Dennis Class

      July 1, 2022 at 2:55 pm

      Unfortunately, many use it as a starting *AND* finish point for their “deep dive” research, investigation, or inquiry.

  39. Kazuyo Leue

    June 30, 2022 at 9:14 pm

    I noticed that Nangin issues (Japanese army massacred in Nangin-fake news made up by China and US to evade US use of the atomic bomb becomes war criminal) were so wrong(fake) and I wanted to corrected it. However it was locked and I found out strangely locked by Falun Gong. Then I contacted SF main office however, many Chinese accented people working there and could not fix the site.

  40. Drew Wilson

    July 1, 2022 at 1:27 am

    Wikipedia and Linux are two tremendous sources of learning.

  41. Dennis Class

    July 1, 2022 at 2:41 pm

    It would have been beneficial if Ms. Maher had spoken with Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger.
    Mr. Sanger says, ” *NOBODY SHOULD TRUST WIKIPEDIA* ”
    He insists “It is now just *PROPAGANDA* for left”

  42. Sanskar Dangat

    July 1, 2022 at 5:01 pm

    She uses such simple speech to express this complex phenomenon

  43. Greg Ferguson

    July 2, 2022 at 11:20 am

    tl;dw: “Minimum Viable Truth”

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  44. No one star

    July 2, 2022 at 8:31 pm

    Truth and facts are totally meaningless in 202x times. All that matters is money, image, marketing, beliefs, social media, propaganda, and merchandise. Nothing more. 💪😎🤟

    Facts are for pu$$13$. As long as you believe in something, then, it’s correct. You just block and ghost anyone who disagrees with you in one simple click! If you’re popular and rich, you win, they lose. Simple.

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  45. Mark Reynolds

    July 4, 2022 at 11:43 am

    A good way of governance?

  46. Jdu 2

    July 5, 2022 at 11:07 am

    Unfortunately you can see how much Wikipedia is spreading fake information on a big scale. I used to look up Wikipedia but stopped when I recognised the amount incorrect information is presenting. I think it is great in some senses when there is a fact already well known and summarised in a place however other times, for example even history of events is totally wrong.

  47. Jdu 2

    July 5, 2022 at 11:07 am

    Unfortunately you can see how much Wikipedia is spreading fake information on a big scale. I used to look up Wikipedia but stopped when I recognised the amount of incorrect information is presenting. I think it is great in some ways when there is a fact already well known and summarised in a place however other times, for example even history of events is totally wrong.

  48. CHHUNLONG KH

    July 5, 2022 at 5:17 pm

    Great. Thanks for sharing

  49. Jerrod Mecca

    July 6, 2022 at 1:12 am

    That was excellent. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

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