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@snapverse
August 15, 2024 at 6:05 pm
V12.5 is an older version
@skyak4493
August 15, 2024 at 6:09 pm
That was the excuse last time. They update all the time, and they fail all the time.
@skyak4493
August 15, 2024 at 6:19 pm
When other autonomous companies had such short distances to needing intervention they were required to register and report intervention rates. Why is tesla allowed to test on public roads without following the same rules?
@pebre79
August 15, 2024 at 6:22 pm
You have hundreds of millions of dollars, you coulda hired someone to record . I’m not defending Tesla. Sounds like a hit piece
@carloscubas2824
August 15, 2024 at 6:53 pm
WHERE IS THE DAMN VIDEO OF THE TEST?!?! … all this people at least have an iphone … so FILM IT. Get a passenger to film it … or buy a damn gopro and a tripod.
@nicolewolfeceo8
August 15, 2024 at 7:12 pm
😂😂😂😂 what a joke
@ThreePuttBogeys88
August 15, 2024 at 7:14 pm
Should I believe my own use of FSD and the hundreds of hours of YouTube footage or this “I’m not a video v logger” dude?
@GooGLR98
August 15, 2024 at 7:40 pm
Tesla dashcam automatically records the videos. Just share that. See if he is telling the truth
@TesRst
August 15, 2024 at 7:51 pm
No videos? Not very convincing 🤨
@RantRantJoe
August 15, 2024 at 8:06 pm
Waymo WINS…
@protectanimals9792
August 15, 2024 at 8:07 pm
Note to myself- Truist analysts are lazy. 1 test and we don’t invest. Guys like this wouldn’t have invested in electricity or airplanes either 🥴
@ngigen
August 15, 2024 at 8:21 pm
If you hate Elon Musk just come to Bloomberg, they’ll always scratch that itch for you.
@Cool-gk8mc
August 15, 2024 at 8:21 pm
Rivian and Waymo. Tesla is old news and brand is tanking.
@milescoleman910
August 15, 2024 at 8:36 pm
Of course if I was an advisor and in charge of lots of money or had net worth over a million myself.
If I saw something work that isn’t supposed to. I might say it failed. If I could spend another year buying up shares of a company that I knew was going to the moon.
@theoaklandpanda9129
August 15, 2024 at 9:17 pm
FSD has always been a fairy tale Musk has endangered the public too. His cult is unwilling to accept that he continues to be a huckster.
@georgem.7539
August 15, 2024 at 10:49 pm
This is reporting?
@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl
August 16, 2024 at 1:23 pm
Whats wrong with it?
@user-fl4pi2ut9c
August 15, 2024 at 10:50 pm
2 media outlets claiming Tesla nearly crashed or broke the law… with no video.
Meanwhile, X users have calculated that every 42 seconds an hour worth of FSD videos is unloaded to YouTube, and I don’t see any of this crap they are claiming on V12 at all.
As an FSD user. This sounds like total BS, and not surprisingly comming from a man who looks like he’s being interrogated. Dude is a bad liar.
@3107karan
August 15, 2024 at 11:15 pm
If anyone says tesla fsd works right now, is either a tesla shareholder or elon fanboy, i have model y, i have tested fsd so many times, its lot better over 4 years i have tested, but its still minimum 5+ yrs to be have realistic expectations, and in rain fsd just don’t work( car simply says take over), i dont believe cameras are answer in the rain.
@aaronmatthews9550
August 16, 2024 at 2:02 pm
Guessing you don’t have or have tested the latest versions of FSD. I’ve had it since April. Used it while driving in the rain many times (heavy downpours). Have had no issues or the car ever telling me to take over. If you haven’t seen the latest versions, then your experiences may be significantly outdated.
@3107karan
August 16, 2024 at 3:05 pm
@@aaronmatthews9550 it don’t rain here in summer in cali, from my past experience last winters, fsd in rain was big no-no, and i tested fsd last month, it was impressive but not reliable imo, maybe your risk tolerance is more than mine.
@aaronmatthews9550
August 16, 2024 at 3:24 pm
@3107karan Gotcha. I was simply replying to your message which noted that FSD didn’t work in the rain and that the car asked you to take over. The newest FSD versions handle rain fairly well and I haven’t had the issues you mentioned. If it doesn’t rain in Cali, then I guess you got that feedback from somewhere else.
@richf3654
August 16, 2024 at 12:56 am
Definitely a hit piece, or simply this guy is just that unaware of his surroundings. He really does not sound too credible. I wonder what his normal driving record looks like.
@lionheart93
August 16, 2024 at 1:10 am
Guys trying to help short sellers
@AP-il7ig
August 16, 2024 at 1:25 am
MSM lies. Mainstream people have caught on. Unverified. No video. No specific location Where did it happen? I guess we’ll just take your word for it and be on our jolly way.
@PeterSedesse
August 16, 2024 at 1:52 am
There are dozens of videos out there since 12.4 showing all types of crazy stuff. FSD running full speed at a moving train (2 different videos). Musk fanboys just don’t understand, this isn’t something where you make a video and it works perfectly, and that means it is ‘solved’.. FSD needs to be accurate 100% of the time. The real problem is that Elon isn’t releasing real stats, he is cherry picking non-committal numbers here and there. There is no way private insurance companies are going to insure FSD cars… just not going to happen. You already see insurance rates for Tesla’s more than 50% higher than normal insurance. Also the numbers speak for themselves. Tesla cut the price in half, and then gave a free month… and there was NO uptick on people buying FSD. It is still around 7%.
@TheEditorify
August 16, 2024 at 2:24 am
Suits vs Engineers. I always pick the right one!
@wegder
August 16, 2024 at 3:13 am
You have to drive on the correct routes, it is only designed to work on certain roads.
@mhsohel47
August 16, 2024 at 5:01 am
Come on, you guys are so incompetent that no evidence for the claim
@eklim2034
August 16, 2024 at 5:14 am
Waymo is way more
@GlobeTrotter-007
August 16, 2024 at 6:59 am
No video as he’s not a vlogger? Very dodgy.
@mbeliv3763
August 16, 2024 at 7:15 am
WHAT A fuckin liar FSD Iis so great TODAY
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
August 16, 2024 at 7:26 am
Except it’s not a “report.” He gave his “impression.” Car was going 4 mph. No video? Two men with phones, and his son could not run a video? This Stein guy failed the B.S. course in business school. Oh wait! Analysts don’t go to “business school.”
@acs2777
August 16, 2024 at 7:39 am
Zzzzz. Creditable = 0
@nick0780
August 16, 2024 at 7:54 am
Weird, mine hasn’t done this after 60k miles.
@mikafiltenborg7572
August 16, 2024 at 8:33 am
🚖10/10-2024 🚖
@mikafiltenborg7572
August 16, 2024 at 8:34 am
No video = No evidense
@thesystemera
August 16, 2024 at 8:35 am
Not buying this at all!
@Tangopassion1
August 16, 2024 at 8:49 am
Media is really lost, when they bring dudes like this on TV to talk to shareholders, Bloomberg should be not going into Clickbait.
@johnlynch301
August 16, 2024 at 9:18 am
This guy earns a living analyzing Tesla and his research is a free 20 minute test drive? His firm can’t purchase a Tesla to try? They don’t know anyone that owns one they can borrow for a while? His experience is not standard. I drove from NJ to NC recently and FSD does great, even during an hour of driving rain.
@risingphoenix1484
August 16, 2024 at 9:53 am
Video proof.
@bradfordjhart
August 16, 2024 at 11:49 am
this is silicon valley, breaking the law is not a problem, we’ll just change the law, problem solved.
@charbelutube
August 16, 2024 at 12:05 pm
Honestly, who said that FSD won’t fail? it is work in progress, that’s why it is called supervised FSD at this point. It is work in progress and the progress is unbelievable. People are forgetting that a few years ago this would have been science fiction. As an engineer and a developer for 25+ years, the technology is astonishing. Show some appreciation… come on
@skyak4493
August 17, 2024 at 5:48 pm
Elon told everyone on the last CC that it would support TSLA valuation as a robotaxi play -that is why this analyst has tried twice.
@claudiainvests
August 16, 2024 at 1:01 pm
FSD is still Level 2 not Level 4 yet
@alexander98502
August 17, 2024 at 2:01 am
He Missed the Elon’s point. Do the test to see progress or potential not robotaxi readiness. Like 14 year . 16 year old student driving. You. Probably not perfect. But you can see if the kid will be able to drive in future or not.
@hwillia204
August 17, 2024 at 3:10 am
Which FSD software were you testing?
@suvrabanerjee2013
August 17, 2024 at 5:23 am
This is the reason I test FSD myself. The commentator here is very subjective and far from truth. RIP MSM!
@nimasahabi9421
August 17, 2024 at 5:42 am
I have used FSD for a couple years and I never seen the car do what he says the car did. We definitely need to see video evidence of this.
@alexedens1
August 17, 2024 at 8:32 am
“Film or video is not a typical media that I operate in.” So this “Tech Analyst” has never used his phone to video record anything? Doesn’t know how? Give me an effing break. And for Bloomberg to give this dude airtime without any video evidence is an even bigger joke. “Oh, something negative about Tesla? You didn’t record it? No worries. Anything negative about Tesla gets hits so we’re good.”
@headyhere
August 17, 2024 at 10:09 am
My experience with FSD was mind blowing, but I still wouldn’t let the vehicle drive itself as a Robo taxi. There are areas that still had to intervene.
@D8099.
August 17, 2024 at 7:37 pm
I hate Tesla, BUT! In its defense. We can’t trust this one guys opinion. NO VIDEO? 😂because he’s not an “influencer” I call Bullshit. Anyone could have rode with him that knows how to hold a phone. We have no idea where this one single person’s loyalties lie. Maybe he’s a Texan like me and loves gas guzzling trucks. I just don’t trust people anymore, or really never should have. Only Video can even the playing field. But to just accept his opinion. No. There test without video evidence is the “complete fail”, REDO !! If you’re so confident in this analysis and opinion, then redo the test with a camera rolling, otherwise you’re full of it.