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@theanimesbig3419
June 27, 2024 at 8:14 am
Basically what your saying is don’t buy this laptops
@Andy-xn1lz
June 27, 2024 at 8:48 am
Not what I heard.
@williamcopeland2617
June 27, 2024 at 9:58 am
Don’t buy the Surface Laptop or Surface Pro if you plan on using them to play games. These aren’t gaming machines at all. Everything else will be fine, and they will perform even better a couple months down the road after some firmware and app updates.
@ahlokecafe_articulate
June 27, 2024 at 8:16 am
Such. A price but cannot perform… Gfy
@joecomputers2740
June 27, 2024 at 8:18 am
🥇
@joecomputers2740
June 27, 2024 at 8:19 am
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@haithamm96
June 27, 2024 at 8:19 am
It’s all about money and not for us and environment.
@Andy-xn1lz
June 27, 2024 at 8:49 am
Who is the “us” you are referring to ?
@haithamm96
June 27, 2024 at 8:58 am
@@Andy-xn1lz Human beings
@jaughnekow
June 27, 2024 at 9:07 am
It’s always about the money
@ROBOROBOROBOROBO
June 27, 2024 at 8:39 am
Say what you will, as a loyal Apple user, I am very dissapointed in newest Ipads. They have great hardware but Ipad OS software is deliberately limited not the hurt Mac sales.
What they don’t know is customers want to take notes with a pen also on a computer and Surface Pro looks like a Ipad Pro killer to me. While trying to protect Mac sales, they will lose from both.
@jaughnekow
June 27, 2024 at 9:06 am
Honestly, they don’t care and a lot of the customers don’t. Unfortunately, this trend will continue
@ZZangZZangM
June 27, 2024 at 11:15 am
You don’t sound loyal. It’s iPad, not Ipad.
@ROBOROBOROBOROBO
June 27, 2024 at 11:22 am
@@ZZangZZangM You should have written you dont “look” loyal. Because you are reading my comment, not hearing my voice.
@SleepyPossums
June 27, 2024 at 12:35 pm
Agree to disagree. I literally bought a new iPad and pencil pro last week. Very happy with them.
The new pencil gestures are absolutely a game changer for quick & fun note taking, and especially drawing.
iPadOS is definitely unable to take advantage of the incredible hardware the M4 chip offers, but it’s lightning fast for everything I’ve ever needed and if I need true powerhouse performance, I’m not looking for a tablet to do that.
@ROBOROBOROBOROBO
June 27, 2024 at 12:45 pm
@@SleepyPossums Apple is something else, that I agree. But I am just dissapointed I cant use a proper File manager on this beautiful device. Like on Mac, or as a programmer I cant use it to do my job, although hardware is more than capable
@guinassi3194
June 27, 2024 at 8:48 am
Qualcomm have dominated on mobile. They have had a winner for a while…
@JoshG_CNET
June 27, 2024 at 1:07 pm
I meant for Windows, but yes, of course, they’ve dominated mobile
@rodolfofrancisco
June 27, 2024 at 9:04 am
I don’t understand why every reviewer is comparing the x elite to the base m3. If it’s Qualcomm laptop flagship chip, it should be compared to apple’s laptop flagship (M3 max). It’s like comparing a Samsung galaxy s24 ultra to the iPhone SE to say it’s better than iPhone.
@JJ-cq6hu
June 27, 2024 at 9:14 am
It is because naming aside, the price for the devices with the Snapdragon X Elite match devices with base M3.
Qualcomm said the X Elite is a direct competitor for M3.
X Plus is a direct competitor for intel and amd chips made for portable devices.
@alexs.5107
June 27, 2024 at 9:14 am
No, You must take into account the price and the specs of the laptop for an equitable comparison. Taking that into account, the MBA M3 is the right candidate.
Qualcomm’ s chip is definitely not as good as high end apple M chips but for a first generation of chips, they have punched way above their weight and that’s good for consumers: Competition. Intel and AMD, if they don’t reinvent themselves, they re in trouble. Later on, Apple will also have some Competition for its high-end MacBooks. In the end consumers win.
@ocanica3184
June 27, 2024 at 10:05 am
@@JJ-cq6hu X Plus is a competitor to M2 most other reviewers agree. Why compare it to x86 when a direct comparison with a similar architecture can be made instead? The Surface Laptop is even priced the same as an M2 Macbook Air at $999.
@JJ-cq6hu
June 27, 2024 at 10:25 am
@@ocanica3184 I can compare it because the competition is the x86 chips by AMD and Intel. Snapdragon is not just competing with Apple. They are competing with intel and AMD as well.. Especially AMDs chips where they are pretty power efficient if set to the battery saver mode
@licenciadoleopoldocanoloza1144
June 27, 2024 at 10:30 am
Surface laptop doesn’t have the top tier snapdragon. But is ok because it doesn’t have the horrendous macos system
@Manny24_8
June 27, 2024 at 9:22 am
So this laptop wouldn’t be good for running CAD software? Or engineering software?
@jasonsfalsetto7343
June 27, 2024 at 9:31 am
I’m using autocad 2025 on the base Surface laptop 7 and it works extremely well. I believe they’re using emulation to run it now, but Autodesk is working on a native ARM Version. Hurts battery life but easily gets 8-10 hours of battery with CAD on full brightness.
@williamcopeland2617
June 27, 2024 at 9:49 am
As of now I would say no. When more firmware and app updates are released, I would say yes. So, give it a good 6 months and these PC’s should perform significantly better.
@karthikmohan6861
June 27, 2024 at 9:36 am
i think just the fact that people are comparing the surface pro 11 to actual laptops instead of the ipad pro says a lot. For tab users, this is an amazing product. Also, hope manufacturers like asus add option to set custom power drain to save even more battery 🤞
@inamulbhuyan
June 27, 2024 at 9:46 am
Snapdragon X Elite 🔋🔋🔥💪
@lelin4732
June 27, 2024 at 10:40 am
Privacy nightmare
@RR-zq3mk
June 27, 2024 at 2:48 pm
@@lelin4732apple has its own privacy issues too….so your point ? Besides AI can be turned off
@inamulbhuyan
June 27, 2024 at 9:46 am
Snapdragon X Elite 🔥💪💪🔋
@timmyjan
June 27, 2024 at 9:57 am
i want the new processors but dont want the copilot or it should be uninstallable at least
side note what is that watch you are wearing??? thnaks
@JoshG_CNET
June 27, 2024 at 12:40 pm
It can’t be uninstalled, and the simple answer is to just not use it, but I also completely understand not wanting it on there at all.
And it’s a Hublot Classic Fusion 1915.1, thanks for watching!
@akin242002
June 27, 2024 at 10:05 am
I would rank the Surface Laptop 7 ahead of the Surface Pro. Far better better life and easier to place on your lap. It seems it is only good for office workers, programmers using C#/Python/Typscript, and general web browsing. Basically, typical Microsoft users minus gamers.
Photo & video editors are better off staying with MacBooks or Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i (Intel version). Gamers are better off with Ryzen CPU laptops.
@donovantheprogrammer2989
June 27, 2024 at 10:17 am
Why don’t tech reviewers ever try holding the Surface Pro with one hand? if anyone is reading this just know that the lack of bezels make it almost impossible to hold like an actual tablet.
@JoshG_CNET
June 27, 2024 at 12:32 pm
You’re not wrong. However, and I can only speak for myself, I never use it like that. It’s a 13-inch tablet with a built-in kickstand, so I use it sitting up on its kickstand or flat on a desk/table or my lap. When I do use it handheld, I usually grip the keyboard cover.
@diegosanchez-su6wv
June 27, 2024 at 1:34 pm
They compare by price range, a 16 inch m3 max 36 gb ram 1 tb is 3,500 dollars, the 15 inch surface laptop on the 12 core elite with 32 gbs ram and 1 tb is 2099 dollars, you can literally almost buy two high end surface laptops for one M3 Max Mac
@ImadKhan1990
June 27, 2024 at 10:27 am
I am curious as to what gaming performance looks like on Snapdragon X Elite machines
@JoshG_CNET
June 27, 2024 at 12:52 pm
The short of it is the iGPU isn’t for demanding games. We played some Hades 2, for example, and that was OK, but that’s about its limits.
@rowaystarco
June 27, 2024 at 2:14 pm
Not crazy good. Compatibility issues and the iGPU is not super powerful. But lighter ARM ported games could run okay I think. Kinda disappointed Microsoft hasn’t shown any initiative in compiling their own games for ARM.
@oli.2844
June 27, 2024 at 3:51 pm
Complete trash. Its soooo bad compared to M chips
@anuradharanasinghe1901
June 27, 2024 at 10:43 am
Why are laptops and tablets getting more expensive now compared to smartphones. I mean few years ago you were able to get flagship laptops for less than 1000 bucks but recently they have been getting insanely expensive.
@bobans
June 27, 2024 at 11:39 am
Because there are morons that are willing to pay these absurd amounts of money on them.
@JoshG_CNET
June 27, 2024 at 12:58 pm
So these new Copilot PCs, esp. those with the Elite chips in them, are going to be btwn $1,200 and $1,700 depending on the configs. Going with the Plus chip will get you down to $1K and then I’d say just wait for a good sale. That goes for Intel and AMD laptops, too. Lately, the things that are driving up the prices are the displays, i.e., going with OLED instead of LCD and getting a discrete GPU, which always means more $$$.
@ZoenzoD53_OW2
June 27, 2024 at 2:16 pm
Inflation and R&D. The chip “arms-race” is more intense now.
@RR-zq3mk
June 27, 2024 at 2:47 pm
Also they know mainly apple has its fanboys in their back pockets willing to pay anything just because it has an apple on it.
@reflectionrecon
June 27, 2024 at 10:43 am
Great Video, If you had a choice what would you pick. Surface pro or Laptop?
@JoshG_CNET
June 27, 2024 at 1:04 pm
really it comes down to needs and how you want to use it. The Laptop’s battery life is noticeably longer and the keyboard and touchpad are better. I’m a big fan of 2-in-1s though. I like being able to get the keyboard out of the way so I can use just the display, whether that’s with the Pen or a full-size keyboard and mouse, and I prefer the Pro for just quickly stashing in bag for my train commute.
@lelin4732
June 27, 2024 at 10:45 am
Microsoft is getting ready to go ahead and get their investments recovered by selling our data like they alway do.
@lazyreuvin
June 27, 2024 at 1:03 pm
USD $450 for the keyboard and pen!?!? WHY?!?
@dreamingabyss
June 27, 2024 at 1:10 pm
I’m returning my new iPad for one of these, and selling my MacBook Air. As someone who is constantly doing math by hand, drawing scientific diagrams in chem / bio, and needs to use 365, this thing is a great device. I didn’t get the OLED because I really don’t need it, but I’m still very happy that they added such a good webcam for Zoom / Teams. The only significant change I want to see is better pen performance.
@ccartee1
June 27, 2024 at 3:37 pm
One useful AI/NPU feature you missed was “Live Caption”. It can take input from a video/audio or from the microphone and generate English captions on the fly. Very useful for videos that don’t have captions.
@filehazir5176
June 27, 2024 at 4:30 pm
Considering Apple rushed M4 and debuted it with an iPad Pro instead of a MacBook shows they felt the heat!
@eazon
June 27, 2024 at 6:31 pm
wth kind of trash review is this?
@JerryDoe
June 27, 2024 at 7:15 pm
Surface Pro 11 / Surface Laptop 7 certainly do not have 20 hours battery life, i tested them both extensively.
Max 6 hours tops with a lot of settings tweaked such as brightness to bare minimum, kill certain services, bt+wifi disabled….
Performance is also piss poor on battery, and gets very hot even when connected to the power supply this thing throttles faster then a Ferrari can go from 1 to 100km/h
Also the Surface doesn’t come with keyboard and pen, you’ll need to cough up $300 extra for the keyboard+pen.
To sum up some costs:
– Surface Pro 11 16gb/512gb = $1,300 usd
– Surface pro 11 keyboard+pen = $300 usd
That’s $1,600 usd folks !
You can get a Macbook Air M3 for $1,350 usd and still run Windows faster than on the Surface in emulation software like Parallels.
Also the performance like i said is really bad, also on the laptop version.
Read the reviews on Amazon or other websites, lots of people are returning it and there are already refurbs being sold of those Snapdragon devices.
Do not trust reviews as many are just directly sponsored my Microsoft/Qualcomm.
The rollout is a big fail seeing the piss poor performance, battery life !