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July 12, 2022 at 10:10 pm
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JamSum
July 12, 2022 at 10:28 pm
“But…LET A WOMAN IN YOUR LIFE…!”
Yellowstome
July 12, 2022 at 10:37 pm
Thy movin’ picures bussin
Todd Ellner
July 12, 2022 at 10:38 pm
YOLO? You Obviously Love Owls
Florbz
July 12, 2022 at 10:40 pm
This video was so radical!!! So fetch!
oldcowbb
July 12, 2022 at 10:50 pm
cool
Daniel Klein
July 12, 2022 at 10:56 pm
This was super, hah, cool. More please!
Alex
July 12, 2022 at 11:00 pm
more of these please! fill my brain with the history of the ridiculous language that is English
Ben Brown
July 12, 2022 at 11:11 pm
Where is Erik? Is he alright?
·〰Poofie~Baku〰·💘
July 12, 2022 at 11:16 pm
One thing I wished they talked about is slang terms being used ironically once they are no longer cool
11
July 12, 2022 at 11:19 pm
Very out of touch perspective and research on the more modern terms.
On fleek was around for much longer before that.
This sounds like listening to suburban couples discuss things they have no idea about with authority
KHA30S
July 12, 2022 at 11:40 pm
It’s about the word being longer but when it started to become popular.
Avery Simmons
July 12, 2022 at 11:26 pm
unrelated but i need to know what astrology placements nicole & drew barrymore share bc… such a similar way of speaking, similar eyes.
freesk8
July 12, 2022 at 11:54 pm
Groovy needs to return.
The Tao of David
July 12, 2022 at 11:55 pm
When are people going to stop saying ‘super-exciting’?
RB Estenzo
July 13, 2022 at 12:07 am
schway!
doug gaudiosi
July 13, 2022 at 12:15 am
The girl is so cringe she’s hard to watch. You can tell she’s reading off a script. A poorly written one
James
July 13, 2022 at 12:26 am
“How do you do, fellow kids?” vibes
Stanford Taylor
July 13, 2022 at 12:32 am
It’s so difficult for these YouTube channels. They never know when people want a long video or a short one. Something like this, which has caught our interest should’ve definitely been longer at least have a part 2 coming soon.
clever username
July 13, 2022 at 12:33 am
Fun fact about the word “booze”, George Washington had a dog named Boozer, as well as other dogs Tipsy and Drunkard.
Roscoe DaMule
July 13, 2022 at 12:50 am
what a bad video
Felica 🍆 I am Online 💋 F Uc_k me
July 13, 2022 at 12:52 am
My question is what does it take for a slang word to qualify as a “normal word”? I’ve always thought of “cool” as a pretty standard word. Didn’t know it hasn’t really been around for that long!
Matt F
July 13, 2022 at 12:58 am
Can we bring this back with the cute woman and leave out the dude that seems to talk over her?
Justa Youtuber
July 13, 2022 at 12:58 am
When are women going to discover arm tattoos are actually gross looking and fall out of style?
Dilusss
July 13, 2022 at 12:58 am
anyone else keep hearing the minecraft spider noise?
Browk
July 13, 2022 at 1:09 am
I’d never thought of the word cool as cool
[ T I A]-C0me 0ver L!ve
July 13, 2022 at 8:47 am
This needs to be a longer series. So many words they did not touch.
iBridge
July 13, 2022 at 8:50 am
Whoever’s reading this I pray that whatever your struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day!!
Emily
July 13, 2022 at 9:23 am
Idk this vid was rly short and pretty cringe, especially when the word cringe was used 🥹🥹 they did a live-action cheugy lmao
Lausy Maus
July 13, 2022 at 9:49 am
Cool is on the fringes of cringes
Merya
July 13, 2022 at 9:51 am
I dont recall most of them 😅 They must have stayed in US
Christie- Go To My ChanneI! L!VE NOW
July 13, 2022 at 10:07 am
This needs to be a longer series. So many words they did not touch.
Nikki Tenbrink
July 13, 2022 at 10:53 am
I would have appreciated a different source for slang or at least a contextualisation of its political leaning. A large portion of its user base is 4chan based and uses it to skew impressions of slangs and groups of people through rhetorics.
[Soffy] H0T Girl L!ve Cam
July 13, 2022 at 11:01 am
My question is what does it take for a slang word to qualify as a “normal word”? I’ve always thought of “cool” as a pretty standard word. Didn’t know it hasn’t really been around for that long!
Evie Z
July 13, 2022 at 12:11 pm
If this becomes a series, I’d love to see Kory Stamper. I miss Merriam-Webster’s “Ask the Editor” days.
Lauren-_ T[A]P Me!! To Have [S]EX💞 With Me🔞
July 13, 2022 at 12:29 pm
My question is what does it take for a slang word to qualify as a “normal word”? I’ve always thought of “cool” as a pretty standard word. Didn’t know it hasn’t really been around for that long!
L M
July 13, 2022 at 12:41 pm
The editor really came after dr Phil huh
Iexpedite1
July 13, 2022 at 1:47 pm
It seems like slang terms that came along before the social media era, are the ones that stay popular. Social media is a place people try to amplify themselves. What better way than to use the newest words and phrases. Before social media, it took words longer to be picked up by the mainstream. They didn’t get played out as quickly and eventually became standard words.
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Dan Evergreen
July 13, 2022 at 2:11 pm
ught hate when it seems like theyre reading off a scrpit. let them have a real conversation 😛
shoyusuki
July 13, 2022 at 2:21 pm
bruh that bit of a son and his grandma dissing on his mom calling her mid made me laugh way more than it should
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July 13, 2022 at 3:29 pm
My question is what does it take for a slang word to qualify as a “normal word”? I’ve always thought of “cool” as a pretty standard word. Didn’t know it hasn’t really been around for that long!
Brianna Luna
July 13, 2022 at 3:30 pm
Looking sharp or tight is one I remember
Tankie
July 13, 2022 at 5:56 pm
I feel like a lot of this stuff is just AAVE that gets popularized and then overused/misused when ppl don’t actually understand what context the word should be used it (ex. Bussin)
dwayno Insano
July 13, 2022 at 6:26 pm
Man, there’s a bunch of jive turkeys up in the comment section,
UndercoverFerret
July 13, 2022 at 6:28 pm
1:20 If I may: Smooth brain
ahoy here
July 13, 2022 at 6:35 pm
more, please!
Lasers on the Ride
July 13, 2022 at 8:14 pm
fleek was just a mutation of “flicky” which is old school chicago slang
Misty Minnie
July 13, 2022 at 8:47 pm
“See you next time” this means there’ll be more parts? Yes please!
invisibledave
July 13, 2022 at 10:13 pm
No wonder I didn’t know what YOLO was. I don’t know who Drake is.
ikwhite
July 13, 2022 at 10:22 pm
quit trying to make FETCH happen
Nic San
July 14, 2022 at 1:54 am
Very odd the need to mention how a “black woman” wasn’t the first to come up with a slang word…
eryn balchunas
July 14, 2022 at 3:16 am
hey guys what about slay
Haley Wilson
July 14, 2022 at 4:21 am
I have never in my life heard “cheugy”
lesbian activity
July 14, 2022 at 6:45 am
i loved this video! still miss erik singer though!
Rayne Michelle
July 14, 2022 at 12:49 pm
Ok, but also I hear gen z bring back words we used in the late 80s early 90s, like sheesh and psych (aka sike), but their use is slightly different.
Lincolnator
July 19, 2022 at 6:12 am
No cap!
Phryer69
July 14, 2022 at 1:05 pm
WHERE IS ERIK SINGER!?
Rachael Anderson
July 14, 2022 at 1:35 pm
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July 14, 2022 at 2:32 pm
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July 14, 2022 at 2:43 pm
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david haros
July 15, 2022 at 1:55 am
yeah, that’s why mostly moronic people follow these trends… you won’t ever catch me using such idiotic terms.
WibZit
July 15, 2022 at 2:00 pm
Tattoos are for pirates and hookers
RogerWazup007
July 15, 2022 at 5:15 pm
Lmao, pancakes on fleek.
KelleyW
July 15, 2022 at 7:15 pm
Why do I feel like I just took a corporate learning module on my first day as a parent? 😂
Elias
July 16, 2022 at 2:38 am
neat
Annette Ziegler
July 16, 2022 at 8:59 am
A linguist who use a fall-back term like “like” this much is disappointing. Also, censoring an old lady giving the finger? Seriously? Strike two.
Burebista
July 16, 2022 at 10:02 am
This was incredibly disjointed and unsatisfactory. I don’t doubt that they’re intelligent and good at what they do, but I didn’t learn a whole lot. The forced humour was pretty lame as well.
Invox
July 16, 2022 at 11:34 am
I never eard of “cheugy” or “fleek”.
Lincolnator
July 19, 2022 at 6:11 am
Your eyebrows are on fleek
Dave Jones
July 16, 2022 at 4:03 pm
I really like what they’re saying but the format is extremely awkward. It’s supposed to feel spontaneous but is actually pretty cringe. WIRED: keep the specialists, lose the “morning show format”. It’s awful.
Jason Neptune
July 16, 2022 at 5:00 pm
Cool video
Loris
July 16, 2022 at 5:24 pm
I only still use use the word cheugy to describe what I feel like is that 2010 millenial cringe or corporation employees that are millenials and still think kids like their stuff. Stuff that people tried to make cool but feels try hard and lame now.
arfin jalal
July 16, 2022 at 5:45 pm
The on fleek vine was archived
Partially
Because of the audio
Real Talk
July 16, 2022 at 10:58 pm
The lady’s speaking and facial mannerisms are way too exaggerated. It’s like she’s talking to preschoolers or something.
Lincolnator
July 19, 2022 at 6:11 am
She’s literally vibing!
16poetisa
July 17, 2022 at 4:11 am
Gotta love a Donna Jo reference!
Michael Vigorito
July 17, 2022 at 7:25 am
“Cool. Cool cool cool.”
Stop breaking the 4th wall Abed!
Matias Bünger
July 18, 2022 at 1:21 pm
0:38 He says 1699 and the image is more like 1899….
mslauralew
July 18, 2022 at 8:06 pm
I like linguistics. I hate children.
caitlinmrr
July 18, 2022 at 9:56 pm
Love this
Strange Law
July 18, 2022 at 11:58 pm
I don’t like they always start their sentences using “yeah”
Lincolnator
July 19, 2022 at 6:09 am
Yeah, no.
Strange Law
July 19, 2022 at 3:31 pm
@Lincolnator Yeah, no… yeah.
TomoyoYumemi
July 19, 2022 at 6:14 am
Es como el hermano inglés de La Dichosa Palabra 😯
Ryan Wilkinson
July 20, 2022 at 10:34 pm
More please!
Shawn Marie Richards
July 21, 2022 at 4:45 am
This is so painfully scripted and executed. The topic has potential – do it justice.
Maximillion Pegasus
July 21, 2022 at 6:17 am
The origin of “cool” is pretty wizard!
D. D.
July 21, 2022 at 1:42 pm
Linguists up-talking? The end is nigh.
MokA
July 21, 2022 at 5:18 pm
This was full cringe for me through the complete video, not what I was expecting to learn. I find trends to be mostly ridiculous overall 🤷🏻♀️
v1d300
July 22, 2022 at 11:44 am
Well thats an irony, you can’t really document slang terms as then they go out of fashion but to know some or most of slang words you have to read about it. So videos like this cannot talk about current slang terms as they won’t remain so popular then. Sigh!
Grongo
July 22, 2022 at 8:18 pm
Cool topic
J
July 24, 2022 at 4:57 pm
Would buizen @5.46 be pronounced like it would in todays Dutch? (Which is not what he’s doing btw.) Today buizen just means tubes or pipes, but I’d love to see it return!
Mark Schafer
July 24, 2022 at 7:02 pm
I like the idea of two sort of not cool people talking about things that are not cool anymore as if they are imparting something arcane and pertinent. Is this video supposed to be ironic?
Tenino Trail Cam
July 24, 2022 at 8:28 pm
Ben, if you’re going to call yourself a linguist, you need to know that you miss-pronounced the Dutch word “buizen”. You pronounced it “boy-zin”, but it should be more like: “bow-zin” as in “a bow and arrow”. Otherwise, interesting stuff.
Joseph Van Geffen
July 24, 2022 at 9:05 pm
Officially requesting “funk”!
TyroPirate
July 28, 2022 at 3:15 am
Sheeeesh
Cool vid
Hastiin Biłééhóziní Binalí
July 28, 2022 at 10:01 pm
I lived in an isolated mountain region of the southwestern United States since my birth in 1996. 6 years ago, I bought my 1st smart phone & I am still learning about many new slang terms used outside of where I grew up. Now, on my digital notebook, I keep an updated list of new terms that city people use every passing year 😅😅.
mcmire
July 31, 2022 at 5:47 pm
Rad. Dope. Sick. Awesome. Bomb. That’s legit. Sweet. Right on. I feel like these ought to be touched on.
What about British slang too?
sketchur
August 7, 2022 at 12:56 pm
Those aren’t just British! 🙂
Phoenix Rivera
July 31, 2022 at 11:05 pm
Where’s Yeat at ? ( SHMUNKY
you want a pizza me?
August 1, 2022 at 9:15 pm
This is streets ahead
Imliterallysotired
August 2, 2022 at 12:03 am
This video is cringe
j
August 2, 2022 at 12:03 pm
cool but not eric singer 💔
💌
August 2, 2022 at 11:44 pm
Why is this so awkward to watch 😭😭😭
AttnDefDis
August 3, 2022 at 3:33 am
Ooh, I like hearing “we’ll see you next time.” I love this kinda thing.
RICHARD MARTINEZ
August 3, 2022 at 11:31 pm
Cheugy sounds like “chunty” with kinda means the same thing, Latinos in LA have been using it for a long time
Nikkie White
August 4, 2022 at 5:31 am
I would like to see them covering some of the computer user Language phenomena. Languages like L33t, LOLcat, the Tumbler punctuation free rhetorical type… Things like that that are mostly text based but are sometimes used verbally.
Stephanie Driggs
August 4, 2022 at 10:15 pm
the talk-show transitional banter in this video is really off-putting, which is unfortunate because the content here is truly interesting. I don’t think this format is the right way to present this content.
ChunkyLovr
August 5, 2022 at 5:44 am
This is the year of “fetch”
Bill Goat
August 5, 2022 at 4:55 pm
“Through history” and by history we of course mean the most recent 10 years
123UpNorth321
August 5, 2022 at 8:51 pm
God, I hate drake so much 🙈
rix SHEARER ism
August 6, 2022 at 4:06 am
cool
Sarah B
August 6, 2022 at 11:28 pm
I really like this, but the set needs to be made a bit more casual maybe. It looks like a business HR training video.
Narvin
August 7, 2022 at 4:32 am
Why was this so scripted? Or did it just feel like it?
Jmatthews
August 8, 2022 at 1:53 am
What about “So Fetch”?
BusquedaBlues
August 8, 2022 at 11:09 pm
The Strokes said “You Only Live Once” way before Drake did in 2005 with their single.
missheniki
August 9, 2022 at 4:33 am
This is such an awkward format. Why would you have a weird PSA type format? Have one linguist on speaking to screen and then another in a separate clip. And give them a teleprompter!
Nicole says “cringe”, and omg, is it ever.
Word N/A
August 9, 2022 at 4:42 am
Katie Curic out here catching strays
Koko Ricky
August 9, 2022 at 2:54 pm
I enjoy Wired, but there’s this incredibly phony display of personality (or perhaps lack of it) I often see in the speakers and this feels kind of like watching two sophisticated AIs talk to each other. It’s odd.
D W
August 9, 2022 at 9:32 pm
People that ask multiple choice questions when all the answers wrong, should be put to death
Livia Marques
August 9, 2022 at 10:45 pm
This is so hilarious. They have no chemistry at all.
Aidan O'Connor
August 10, 2022 at 12:03 am
Prez was more of a title. No one was walling Lester Young, ‘Prez’ Young
Joe
August 10, 2022 at 4:26 pm
“Tsugi/Chugi” is a Filipino slang term initially mostly used by the female and LGBT population that means “dead/deceased” and was used long before 2013. “Cheugy” really sounds and means similar to that.
Kerami Roberts
August 11, 2022 at 10:56 am
“before it got way too cringe”…..
Shudder
Joshua Taylor
August 11, 2022 at 4:59 pm
I was wearing a YOLO bracelet until the end of 2013.
Pages and Portraits
August 11, 2022 at 6:57 pm
Mentioning a lot of things about age and around race without actually saying it..
Tyler Baughn
August 12, 2022 at 2:04 am
I hate the way they speak
Do Better with Christian
August 12, 2022 at 4:24 am
When is next time?
Lol Lol
August 12, 2022 at 7:36 am
I don’t know why but it really bothers me that he doesn’t speak to her like an other linguist
Person
August 12, 2022 at 9:08 am
I’m going to be adding nigmenog to my regular vocabulary
Jeremiah Dicharry
August 12, 2022 at 11:41 pm
I’m a younger Gen X and I’ve never heard of some of these words. If I heard someone using them, I’d look at that person and think, “Why do you sound like an idiot using such idiotic words that make no sense?”
Karoline Yuuki
August 13, 2022 at 12:18 am
Kids here in Brazil started using cringy, like the actual English word, same meaning and all. I thought that was really cool, cause I could use that word in both languages.
But then old people found out about this, and for a week on daytime TV and Buzzfeed like sites there was “what is cringy?” , ” The new word young people are using to describe us”, “are you cringy?” tests. The situation was indeed, very cringy. And the word instantly died
Cesar III Emaas
August 13, 2022 at 4:01 am
I can see how society evolves so quickly. As of now, Gen Z doesn’t view things as lame anymore when slang gets used outside of it’s usual demography. Since Social Media is used by everyone regardless of age or background, almost everyone is accepted and slangs don’t die much, they just get replaced but still usable. Gatekeep in online communities is like fire, it’s useful but only when used in a proper way
Fables 456
August 13, 2022 at 5:19 am
Why you can’t take the Bible seriously
Kevin McDonough
August 13, 2022 at 6:20 am
You gotta imagine “on fleek” was used in social circles before it slipped into Vine. For linguists, saying it was “coined” at that moment seems … naive.
Elijah Ford’s Idiotic Variety Show
August 13, 2022 at 8:40 am
I like to think of the first time someone used “cool” and them immediately being like “Wow, that sounds so natural! Like it’s always been here!”.
Cinnamon Henke
August 13, 2022 at 11:01 am
My daughter says “cool” but she means “whatever”… John Oliver also uses “cool” in such a whateverish manner which of course is not cool. 🙁
RVKA
August 13, 2022 at 1:02 pm
Parents: If you don’t want your child saying swear words/other trends, just start saying them yourself! It won’t be ‘cool’ anymore.
Let me know if it works
MySlenderGames
August 13, 2022 at 9:42 pm
On fleek lasted a good 4ish years
Justin Gerald
August 14, 2022 at 2:22 am
Nicole (Dr. Holliday) killing it
alexandra annette
August 14, 2022 at 1:26 pm
I still use yolo my fav
George Dominguez
August 14, 2022 at 5:56 pm
Why are they talking like they’re talking to a toddler
Lucas L
August 14, 2022 at 8:11 pm
My favourite slang word is jepic
@user-vw6xp5nl6t
October 27, 2022 at 4:08 am
Is this the Onion?
@nancy-ann-ciancee5127
November 16, 2022 at 6:01 am
Cool was big in the 80s and 90s and I think it went away just a tad when ppl started saying dope. I began to wonder if I should stop using the word especially around my niece and nephew for a fear of sounding UN-Cool. 😂
@vacuumlover1
November 19, 2022 at 2:46 pm
Yeet is my favorite word
@fredmurphy42
November 28, 2022 at 5:51 am
5:09 was cringe
@WesleyWhiteside
January 28, 2023 at 11:08 pm
Cool will never go out of style. It’s immortal.
@inhha
March 18, 2023 at 2:23 am
Despite her surprisingly descriptive name, Lauren Booberkin is a Congressperson.
@NellieKAdaba
July 4, 2023 at 12:32 pm
Wow
@lutherlucasolivia1136
April 13, 2023 at 7:02 am
Cool is Handsome
@jemthomas7915
May 13, 2023 at 8:40 am
sounds overly scripted- it’s distracting
@zaxwrld
May 27, 2023 at 9:23 pm
Can we point out that when you’re referencing someone you don’t have to point out their color of skin?
Like I understand everyone wants to be equal to everyone, so do I. So why are we trying to point out race? Just say “It’ not the first time a young woman has created a slang that ultimately became cringe.”
@jban4457
July 30, 2023 at 4:38 pm
Angela Lansbury used the word “cool” PERFECTLY in her very first screen appearance in Gaslight (1944)
@eritain
August 12, 2023 at 11:54 pm
Not one allusion to the classic MadTV sketch “slang gang”?
@BrianThomas
August 15, 2023 at 1:47 pm
I’m a new writer. How does one find slang words for stories that take place 100 years or more into the future without sounding silly, or out of touch?
@Cha4k
October 16, 2023 at 9:02 pm
“Nigmenog, Because…nog”
Oh yea yea thats what I was thinking too…the nog part.
@lulu4882
October 31, 2023 at 11:15 am
with social media i feel like we’re quickly approaching the singularity where white people make AAVE words uncool the instant after they are coined and all speech is a constant fountain of neologisms used once before going immediately out of date because of brands using them to look hip.
@MaybeZero
December 11, 2023 at 7:44 pm
My high school English teacher put this on 💀
@vph7
December 31, 2023 at 3:23 pm
“My daughter is very mid” 💀
@cotygelowitz8514
March 20, 2024 at 10:00 pm
No cap fam
@AaronWu426
May 8, 2024 at 9:13 pm
skibidi
@RobloxGamingCorner
May 19, 2024 at 11:28 pm
Gyatt and Scibidi will die someday…
@laravioliiii2832
June 8, 2024 at 9:47 pm
Can’t wait to see people try to decipher Gyatt, Skibidi, Sigma, and Fanum Tax.
@CharlieCanfield
June 24, 2024 at 6:32 pm
trigger warning: on the subject of ‘cant’ being a 17th slur, i imagined hearing it in a British accent, and it begins to sound remarkably similar to another contemporary slur favored by the Brits but considered too harsh in U.S. english.
@DingaLingu
July 3, 2024 at 5:11 am
0:58
@relaxmusic5198
August 4, 2024 at 3:28 pm
nice
@seizuresalad91
August 22, 2024 at 1:57 am
The neighborhood I live in is full of nigmenogs
@Youngbloodz33
September 10, 2024 at 6:25 pm
If elon musk and scott m gimple That showrunner, for the walking dead, had a baby, and he lived to be about thirty something. This is the guy. Say less