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credenza1
March 12, 2022 at 10:02 pm
Nonsense. The cost of producing, installing, maintaining, replacing, these monstrosities (which are never in the back yards of the elites who so ardently advocate them) must be accounted for, as well as the associated expense of the infrastructure required to compensate for their downtime. My first question is, how much will this speaker personally gain from the growth of these eyesores? My second question is how much will he taxpayers have to pay to subsidize this blight on the landscape?
MonkeyInACloset
March 12, 2022 at 11:17 pm
I live close to “these monstrosities”. They look cool. I have nothing else to add.
DMminion
March 12, 2022 at 11:33 pm
The mess and the replacement costs+(more)… x_x rip our lives, while most here are too blind to realize it.
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 12:09 am
@Krunoslav Stifter you think fossil fuel companies aren’t subsidized? Really?
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 12:09 am
@MonkeyInACloset ditto
Krunoslav Stifter
March 13, 2022 at 12:38 am
@Benjamin Henderson Its the same people more or less, behind it, but fossil fuels are not on agenda 230, that’s the difference. They also work, wind and solar, don’t work as advertised and they are not renewable or sustainable. You need fosil fuels to fight wars, to build these suckers, and to dispose of them when they break down. The special composite materials don’t recycle well, so you end up with more waste and when you don’t have enough wind and sun you end up with problems, so you still need classic methods. I won’t even go into logistical, geopolitical and practical problems problems of battery production and usage. But ultimately this is not about technology its about ideology. Religion. Look into agenda 230, or WEF website of the things these genocidal maniacs are pushing for. Absolute madness.
Night Storm
March 12, 2022 at 10:06 pm
FACT – wind turbines are ran by a DIESEL engine not WIND.
Aerium Four
March 12, 2022 at 10:19 pm
Gas is 3~% the cost of wind energy per MWh, and environmental pledges make up 25% of energy bills as it is.
We have almost destroyed the lower classes on this vanity project already, and you seriously want to push this further?
We need to seriously consider teaching people to ignore the Scandinavians.
This isn’t stupidity anymore, it’s malice.
SeronHD
March 12, 2022 at 10:37 pm
What gas? In which country? Here in europe gas is the most expensive form of generating energy. Also gas has freaking high emissions. Gas is coming directly after coal. And even in the US these numbers aren’t true: Levelized cost of energy for new installment (without subsidies): $37 Solar PV, $40 Wind, $59 Gas. Source: Lazard Analysis 2020.
Aerium Four
March 12, 2022 at 10:54 pm
@SeronHD This is from the UK. and the numbers you provide from Lazard (impressed you know of them tbh) are, as you mention, levelised.
That means it takes into account the total lifecycle cost of a production facility or mechanism weighted against the total output. It does NOT however account for the repair cost of that facility or mechanism when that lifecycle reaches it’s end, nor the issues around intermittency that are a simple reality of “renewables”.
Once these are taken into account, the numbers are substantially different, supposedly at gas: $29, wind: $840, solar: $1,007.
YouTube gets angry with links these days but Sky has a wonderful breakdown of this called Energy Crisis.
Sam Ponzio
March 12, 2022 at 10:27 pm
Wind energy is the least efficient and highest cost renewable energy solution. Never gunna be sustainable. Nuclear is the way to go short term (25 years)
Khanh Phạm Đình
March 12, 2022 at 10:28 pm
yeah right… Look at Texas last year.
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 12:49 am
That was libertarianism, not wind tech, that caused that.
Fi
March 13, 2022 at 1:15 am
@Benjamin Henderson you know Texas is not liberal right? lmao
also do you know where the word libertarianism comes from?
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 1:29 am
@Fi libertarians are about as far from liberal as it gets. As for where the word comes from, I believe french revolutionaries, but I could be wrong. It really doesn’t matter. What matters is the group the word currently represents. Soulless hypercapitalists.
Home Wall
March 12, 2022 at 10:29 pm
And when the wind isn’t blowing?
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 12:06 am
Thats what batteries are for.
Natskii
March 13, 2022 at 12:28 am
@Benjamin Henderson we’re not good at storing electrical energy, but I think there’s enough wind anyway
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 12:38 am
@Natskii a chunk of the video covers this. Battery storage is much improved, but more importantly hydrogen storage is an efficient solution available with current tech.
Christian Rohde
March 13, 2022 at 12:44 am
It always will be somewhere on the earth.
Natskii
March 13, 2022 at 1:00 am
@Benjamin Henderson Thank you for the correction, I feel like a fool for not having watched the video entirely
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George Washington
March 12, 2022 at 10:44 pm
If we put one absolutely humongous wind turbine in the middle of ocean we could energize the whole world! I mean frickin humungous! Just one! Cant believe no one else thought of this! I mean huge! Just one would do it! Thx
Benjamin Henderson
March 12, 2022 at 11:57 pm
Is that kinda like building a giant wall on the southern border?
George Washington
March 13, 2022 at 12:09 am
@Benjamin Henderson huh? How did u work that in to what i said?
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 12:20 am
@George Washington both are obviously useless ideas
DaleG281
March 12, 2022 at 10:58 pm
There are a lot of negative people in the comments hoping this fails and pointing out every small setback. We will get there in the end
DMminion
March 12, 2022 at 11:58 pm
@Benjamin Henderson … but countries that has lower amount of wind turbines suffers less raised power prices than us. Weird, we’re still the ones to pay the second highest in EU.
MonkeyInACloset
March 13, 2022 at 12:02 am
@DMminion source?
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 12:46 am
@DMminion doesn’t denmark have super high energy taxes? That might be part of it.
DMminion
March 13, 2022 at 1:09 am
@Benjamin Henderson it is, but still doesn’t explain the truth. Why a kWh ran from being 0.5€ back in 2019 to 1,15€ now
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 1:18 am
@DMminion i dont know man, i dont live in denmark, but unless you have something telling me how it was wind, and didn’t have anything to do with taxes, or covid, or tensions with russia, or anything else i don’t buy it man.
My local energy company gives the option of only drawing my electricity from the local renewables, namely the giant wind farm around here. It only costs me around 10% more than letting them source it from fossil fuels. My bill has held fairly steady going on 8 years now.
I suspect it might be your electric bill has gone up for other reasons.
Krunoslav Stifter
March 12, 2022 at 11:10 pm
Oh great more Agenda 230 watermelon politics. Green on the outside, red on the inside. I wonder how many shares does this guy has invested.
Smae
March 12, 2022 at 11:25 pm
I heard birds love to dive into these things to see if they can make it through before getting hit
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 12:36 am
@Smae I have birds fly into my picture windows and die at least a few times a year, and thats just house windows.
Smae
March 13, 2022 at 12:37 am
Oil is running out already anyways it will only take a few more decades at the rate we are consuming it so being worried about oil not about climate change but now about what countries are going to do once all the oil is gone
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 12:41 am
@Smae not nearly enough.
I live near a sizable wind farm. I think you are severely overestimating the impact on the birds. The turbines went up over 20 years ago, and we still have plenty of birds here.
Smae
March 13, 2022 at 12:41 am
Never experienced it, interesting
Smae
March 13, 2022 at 12:59 am
@Benjamin HendersonI’m imagining if there were a lot more more turbines put in then maybe it can hurt bird populations. Birds need there flight paths that go around the world, the turbines can possibly disrupt that, raptors that love high areas will most likely get killed by these and they were almost extinct in America because of poisons so we don’t need to hurt those populations anymore
David Boson
March 12, 2022 at 11:30 pm
concrete?
Christina Law
March 12, 2022 at 11:38 pm
LOL except it wont, wind energy is PATHETIC, it will never generate enough energy for most people due to basic limitation of physics.
HunterHQ
March 12, 2022 at 11:39 pm
How about recycling the turbines after they have to be changed? It’s a challenge
D GE
March 12, 2022 at 11:42 pm
Enormous footprint pr TWh, impossible to control(in the mercy of wind), no waste control(epoxy and nanopaints) and the whole thing must replaced after 25 years. And wont even replace fossilfuels.
Waste of ressources on a humonges scale.
Dan is a lobbytool for the wind industry.
Johnny Jones
March 12, 2022 at 11:52 pm
Sounds great. BUT…
This is nothing new, hydrogen and wind generation have been around for decades.
Sounds like another company looking for more tax payer money to fund a dream…..
If this worked so well, you wouldn’t need such a hard sell and plenty of private ventures would love to invest to make more money.
Can’t help to think this is another white elephant….
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 12:26 am
Hard to compete when we subsidize fossil fuels more than renewables.
Christian Rohde
March 13, 2022 at 12:45 am
Wind generation is improving at and absolutely incredible rate.
MonkeyInACloset
March 12, 2022 at 11:54 pm
I don’t mind living close to these turbines, I wonder if the people in the comments would be happy to live close to an 80 year old nuclear plant.
Benjamin Henderson
March 13, 2022 at 12:23 am
Or an oil refinery
jvazorka03
March 12, 2022 at 11:56 pm
I would rather see the development of Solar power across the world, considering the largest source of energy closest to the earth is our sun, but I agree that there is room to grow for wind energy engineering, especially with offshore wind farming, the ocean breeze is viable.
lou e
March 13, 2022 at 12:02 am
Why are the single blade wind generators that sway in the wind not more used? From what I have read they can produce a relatively good amount of energy without them being danger to birds. And were easier to set up and keep maintenance on.
Cool Girl 007
March 13, 2022 at 12:04 am
Small country big aim
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March 13, 2022 at 12:19 am
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Brett
March 13, 2022 at 12:34 am
“End date in 2050” (28 years from now) golf clap.
It’ll be easy to change or extend the date. They were just looking for polite golf claps.
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Brett
March 13, 2022 at 12:44 am
10 GW for 10 million homes.
That’s 1000 watts or 1KW, per home.
The average home is going to require 10 KW, at a minimum. Add on everything like heat, hot water and cooking being converted to electric. You’re looking at more like 20 KW per home
So the 10 GW would power more like 10,000,000 ÷ 20 or half a million homes.
Be careful of the snake oil salesmen!
Brett
March 13, 2022 at 12:46 am
EDIT: I forgot the electric cars you’ll be charging. Your electric usage is going way up!
Mark
March 13, 2022 at 1:05 am
So you are telling us that you need 20kW*24h*365 per year? Electric cars need between 1200-3500kWh/10000km
Lucas Hanover
March 13, 2022 at 1:08 am
@Brett what capacity factor are you using in your assumption? The 10GW is the name plate capacity. multiply capacity factor X name plate capacity X 8760. This will give you generation in GWh. That’s the number you should be comparing to avg home consumption. Your house consumption figure is in the wrong units and doesn’t make sense…
Brett
March 13, 2022 at 12:51 am
People in these comments would shut off an elderly person’s oxygen generator rather than have a few moron birds not avoid flying into the wind turbine’s blade. Smh
Steven c
March 13, 2022 at 1:02 am
Great presentation
TschingisTube
March 13, 2022 at 10:20 am
Storing electricity in hydrogen is super ineffizient. Use batteries, they have been designed to do. And you are 60% more efficient so you can cut oil production much earlier, because 2050 is just rediclious.
Yasmine Steinbauer
March 13, 2022 at 2:25 pm
@TschingisTube Through a simple chemical process, the hydrogen can be converted into methane gas by carbon dioxide. This is then equivalent to natural gas and can even be stored in the same tanks.
TschingisTube
March 13, 2022 at 2:54 pm
@Yasmine Steinbauer So we are going on and wasting even more energy, because electrical energy is the kind of energy we have in excess and if we don’t we just build more wind power so that the investor of the wind power does not get any in return since we force him to deliver all energy for free so that we can waste it in all processes? Simple as that. No change required. We can burn our natural gas, even drive cars with it and maybe also mix it with gas from some super reliable countries if it does not work out?
Yasmine Steinbauer
March 13, 2022 at 3:05 pm
@TschingisTube A gasoline-powered car also has an efficiency of only 25-30%. But that doesn’t upset you? Only when it comes to renewables you are suddenly interested in efficiency. We are by no means mindlessly building up capacities in order to then also mindlessly waste them. There are precise model calculations for all that.
TschingisTube
March 13, 2022 at 5:07 pm
@Yasmine Steinbauer it does upset me therefore i drive an ev.
manik tiwari
March 14, 2022 at 1:15 am
Also, concentrated solar power is much more efficient than wind. Wind may not flow for days but sun will always come up in the sky.
Also, tidal + solar is a much better alternative to wind because tides will never stop. As tidal energy is relatively expensive, it can be used when solar energy is unavailable.
Psych Boost
March 13, 2022 at 11:05 am
Well, this is well-timed…..Also, I guess I need to change the way I say Viking……
parth vekariya
March 13, 2022 at 11:09 am
informative
Therkelsen
March 13, 2022 at 12:48 pm
Ah yes, Gigabyte Dan
cikal kompetensi
March 13, 2022 at 12:56 pm
Thanks to share valuable knowledge
Dustin Gliko
March 13, 2022 at 1:42 pm
Fast Intergal Reactors are way more efficient
M
March 13, 2022 at 3:05 pm
Yet he won’t stop the construction of a new pipeline..
Robert Jennings
March 13, 2022 at 3:27 pm
What about the birds?
John Fausett
March 13, 2022 at 3:32 pm
Cool tech and nice presentation with the exception of the reference to “climate change”, as if such a phenomenon exists.
tammy burke
March 13, 2022 at 5:17 pm
Omg STILL, with You People. Just go away so the rest of the scientific world can move on. You’re part of “the big lie”
ronkirk50
March 13, 2022 at 3:34 pm
We in the U.S. can’t seem to get passed the special interests, rich waterfront homeowners (Cape Cod,) fishermen (Maine). and others, so we can build wind turbines in one of the best locations – the near offshore. All the advantages of offshore wind turbines exist near shore including strong steady wind, shallow water, and most importantly, close proximity to cities that consume the output. It will take federal government intervention to overcome these special interests for the benefit of the greater good.
Richard Monroe
March 13, 2022 at 5:45 pm
Even RFK jr opposed Cape Wind. Of course he’s not right in the head to begin with.
Ligia Sommers
March 13, 2022 at 3:48 pm
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Sten Andersson
March 13, 2022 at 3:55 pm
The truth is that Damark always need to import from Sweden and Norway.
nepaliman
March 13, 2022 at 4:21 pm
We need better batteries. Something cheap and easy to produce with no environmental impact. Once we find that and replace all LI-ION batteries from all cars. ICE will be non economical and world will move toward E-Cars much quicker.
Wind is nice. But i think Fusion nuclear reactor and Cheaper/new technology in battery is key to solving global warming.
DaManlerz
March 13, 2022 at 4:25 pm
It would be amazing to make this change, but I’m afraid humanity is too stupid to make real change. Greed among politicians with oil and coal “donations” lining their pockets will never allow such a change.
Then you have half of Americans listening to that orange faced idiot that wind turbines are horrible for the environment and they kill millions of birds and all his pathetic rhetoric… ugh, we’re all doomed.
tammy burke
March 13, 2022 at 5:19 pm
Great talk. Sad to read there are still commenters who deny climate change, deny wind power, deny green alternatives, they just can’t change with science.
Richard Monroe
March 13, 2022 at 5:43 pm
1.4 million 3mw wind turbines is all that’s needed to supply the US with electricity if only wind was used.
Robert Hassebrock
March 13, 2022 at 5:49 pm
So, the Vikings went to Greenland and colonized it, and we are now seeing evidence of their villages as the ice has receded. But doesn’t that mean that it was warmer then that it is now, and isn’t the fact that the speaker ignores it a red flag of intent or ignorance?
Hansu
March 13, 2022 at 6:05 pm
I really like the vision he gives here. But it didn’t answer the one of the core questions that follows: how is this practical for other countries with different geolocation?
PRFDK
March 13, 2022 at 6:08 pm
This is literally the guy who thought gigawatts were called gigabytes, surely we could have send a better expert
Duranarts
March 13, 2022 at 7:08 pm
Video starts at 3:30
Things I Buy
March 13, 2022 at 8:32 pm
2050 might be a tad late.
Val F.
March 13, 2022 at 9:58 pm
I would recommend using solar energy instead and also produce hydrogen.
Turning Point
March 14, 2022 at 1:11 am
Depends where you are and also helps cover demand when the suns not out. Yeah maybe in the future when solar becomes even cheaper.
Val F.
March 14, 2022 at 1:17 am
@Turning Point Indeed it depends and very costly to deploy over water. Green energy was tried in Ontario Canada and scrapped after spending 100s of millions due to the high cost. Spending more than the energy being harvested. Wind farms was an issue due to impact on birds and noise level created.
Turning Point
March 14, 2022 at 2:11 am
@Val F. It of course adds to cost when putting them out to sea but still viable and costs are still dropping. Buildings of all types kill birds, cooling towers on fossil fuel powered generators are one example. Noise, well if there out to sea no.
Val F.
March 14, 2022 at 2:52 am
@Turning Point Building over water still much more expensive than on land. Do you know how much it cost to build a bridge compared to an overpass? yes, much more expensive over water. Civil is still constant and it is not declining in costs.
Invox
March 14, 2022 at 12:04 am
Turbines are not without problems. One of them is infrasounds, specially if a lot of them are together the low vibrations can disrupt small animal behaviour and even human sleep that could lead to anxiety, among other problems. I’m not saying they should stop, but they should definitely look into it.
Cnv Ramamoorthy
March 14, 2022 at 12:46 am
Great . We in south india using Vestas 500 kw on shore wind turbine for past 20 years , producing 1,50,00,000 units KWH/ year .
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March 14, 2022 at 7:41 am
Texas is generating 22652 MWh of wind energy at the time of this comment, and none of it is offshore. I understand that Denmark does not want turbines on much of its land, but this TED talk is only about thoughts and dreams instead of reality. Denmark can do it, but they need to do it now or try something different. They can help Iceland with green hydrogen, for example, or they could ask Uruguay for advice.
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LizBramsen
March 14, 2022 at 8:39 am
Soooo proud to be a Dane!
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March 14, 2022 at 4:27 pm
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