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How to Fix Two of the Most Broken Systems in the US | Nick Turner | TED

In an engaging, insightful conversation, criminal justice reformer Nick Turner breaks down the ways the US criminal legal system perpetuates centuries-old racial and economic inequality. He joins TED current affairs curator Whitney Pennington Rodgers to outline why the best way to actually deliver justice and safety is to shrink the system and recognize the humanity…

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  1. Troy Gustin

    March 12, 2022 at 4:22 pm

    So what you’re describing is ludicrous.

  2. lifeontheX

    March 12, 2022 at 4:22 pm

    Nothing but word salad. Nothing to see here…

  3. ST33LDI9ITAL

    March 12, 2022 at 4:23 pm

    Oh? How about the electoral college.. or the federal reserve… healthcare… education… the major parts of our society are all broken and unsustainable. As long as people can get by jussssst enough to avoid civil war it passes. Sad. Our country has literally done a 360 and went back to everything our ancestors fought against.

  4. Alan Tucker

    March 12, 2022 at 4:24 pm

    Garbage

  5. Aron TB Suchkind

    March 12, 2022 at 4:33 pm

    The US legal system is not blind for it treats individuals differently depending upon their economic or law enforcement status. We have a different legal system for:
    #1 The rich AND famous. (the AND is important)
    #2 The rich.
    #3 Law enforcement.
    #4 White or “perceived white” people
    #5 Those with permanent tans.
    EDIT:
    #6 Citizens below the poverty line. The “one is only as free as your money” phenomenon.

    • Valerie Hancotte-Galan

      March 12, 2022 at 5:02 pm

      I would say Rich and/or famous, but not always color of skin. If you’re impoverished, you’re a target regardless,..easy target!

    • Adria

      March 12, 2022 at 6:04 pm

      Permanent Tan, that is more offensive than using the word black. Why is the word white ok to use and the word Black Not. Societies need to stop the nonsense of not using the word black, otherwise this will never end.

    • Aron TB Suchkind

      March 12, 2022 at 6:22 pm

      @Valerie Hancotte-Galan That is a good point, poverty places populations in jeopardy of abuse/exploitation.
      When I was a kid back in the day in the old hood we knew what cops would just beat you or worse….so we would run. Those cops did that because they could. Although white, we were poor so they could get away with it.

    • Aron TB Suchkind

      March 12, 2022 at 6:23 pm

      @Adria the word black/Black isn’t offensive BTW. BUT it also doesn’t cover the entire spectrum now does it short bus?
      Be a Karen somewhere else.

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    March 12, 2022 at 4:38 pm

    Tedious propaganda and factual misrepresentation but at least consistency…

  8. lolmao500

    March 12, 2022 at 4:41 pm

    Two of the most broken things : big pharma and the “just-us“ system. Step 1 : do national health care and the gov takes over all drugs patents and sell them at cost, all those rich assholes and their puppets in governments who oppose it get the electric chair and all their assets seized. Step 2 : all cops, judges and politicians are subject to the same laws as everybody else, no excuse. No more elected judges, DAs or sherrifs. No more life appointments to courts for judges. When cops murder someone, they go to prison if its not in self defense. All drugs are decriminalized. No more prisons for profit. All non violent drug crimnals already in prison are released immediately.

    That should be a good start.

  9. sis howser

    March 12, 2022 at 4:46 pm

    Except for the claim that this is a racist matter most of this isn’t too far off.

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    March 12, 2022 at 4:46 pm

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    • mambtuo

      March 12, 2022 at 10:54 pm

      I pray everything works out for you too.

  11. Singularity Bound

    March 12, 2022 at 4:47 pm

    Nothing more annoying then people who think they have good ideas trying to sell them.. part of the problem with everything.
    Or people with actual good ideas being censored or not allowed to be seen at all.

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      March 14, 2022 at 1:19 am

      Which is why social media is golden for anyone with a wifi connection to get their ideas out into the world for billions to see and hear!

  12. AZ Battle School

    March 12, 2022 at 5:01 pm

    Ted is good , but started to get a bit to “woke.” America is not perfect but we get zero credit for being the first country where white people risked their own lives to fight against slavery . and then to go around the world telling all countries that it was wrong to have slaves. and further sing the moniker that “ALL men were created equal. “, Instead we are only told how bad white men are, and how racist we are. Travel the world and you may find , while not perfect , America is a leader on this rock flying in space . It can be better for sure, however it’s like having a boss that constantly points out your faults with zero praise for the work you have done above and beyond .

  13. Philip Benjamin

    March 12, 2022 at 5:08 pm

    What is a criminal? Answer – it’s you and me – placed under enough pressure. It’s us being treated without mercy until eventually we crack.

    None of us can pretend that we can live without mercy – without kindness. None of us is self made. We are born in hospitals built by others – we go to schools created by others – we travel on roads built by others. We are educated by people who we can never pay back – we can only pass on what they did for us.

    I’ve been living in London for the past five years. The homeless are – with few exceptions – entirely functional – they are just down and out. People passing by chat with them like they would with anyone. Now I’m visiting New York City and there are people all over the place whose behaviour is dysfunctional – and there’s only one reason for the difference – because in the US homeless people – poor people – are in many places treated like trash – their behaviour being their only means to protest – to say “I’m worth something”.

    Google incarceration rates by country and you’ll see that the US is at the VERY TOP of a list of failed states – with few first world countries in the top hundred. I am a Christian and for a country in which so many profess a faith to treat those who are poor as the US does completely blows my mind. It’s a disgrace – proof of immense spiritual blindness. Americans – speaking as a whole – are only interested in you if you are a somebody – to not be a somebody is literally a crime in the US. To live simply – to be a servant to others – to lead others by becoming smaller so they can become greater – is not valued – it is scorned.

    I spend time pointing out the corruption in the message of US Christian leaders online – I show exactly why what they say is wrong – and yet those who follow them couldn’t care less – it only matters that the person has power – it’s completely irrelevant how they got power and use power – it only matters that they have it. The spirit of Trump is everywhere – there’s absolutely no reason to see Trump’s prominence as his fault. He was given his prominence by people who believe that lying, abuse, coercion, lack of mercy – is the way forward.

  14. Odreaded

    March 12, 2022 at 5:11 pm

    When will we fix our bail reform system?? The serial killer that was hiding body parts around Brooklyn was charged with killing and raping someone in 1963, released in 84, stabbed and dismembered someone in Central Park in 85, and now killed someone recently. Who in their right mind would release someone that has killed two people back out into the world let alone a second time. Accountability is what we want

    • listen2meokidoki

      March 13, 2022 at 12:34 pm

      You are confused. Justice is a balancing act. There is no way to define the future. If you don’t want to be hit by a bus, do you ban buses? Or will you take responsibility into your own hands & watch where you’re going? Or do you FEEL the buses are coming after you?

    • Emm N.

      March 13, 2022 at 4:31 pm

      @listen2meokidoki Actually you’re the confused one… in your analogy you wouldn’t ban all busses just those that are built with dead angles or other obstructions that would impede a diver to see since people get mostly hit on street crossing because of bad driving.
      “7 Most Common Causes of Pedestrian Accidents: 1) Distracted Driving. 2) Speeding. 3) Failing to yield the right of way to pedestrians at crosswalks.”
      What he was saying is that for some classes of crimes, bail should not be an option while for other classes, e.g. soft drugs, should be exempted from bond bail if the person in question does not have any serious prior offenses. Bail bond is reasonable for repeat offenders or of other crimes not involving serious crimes, murders, rapes, child abuse, etc.

    • listen2meokidoki

      March 14, 2022 at 1:13 am

      @Emm N. You may have a problem with buses in our country. Not in mine. Maybe your people are on the wrong drugs. We strictly make sure everyone is on the right drug all the time. Anyway, you are at a slight advantage because I only watched the first minute of this video. SO what you are saying is he is saying what the JUDICIAL SYSTEM has always said. Every case is different. As for mandatory sentences, well, that’s political and in a democracy you should blame THE PEOPLE. Maybe your PEOPLE are fucked in the head. Like they are in Pakistan and Russia and China and OMG I can’t see it diminishing. Never say, IT CAN’T GET ANY WORSE. Never over estimate human collective stupidity.

  15. Nin Reck

    March 12, 2022 at 5:20 pm

    turn prisons into public housing lol

  16. Maple Dove

    March 12, 2022 at 6:20 pm

    14:10 and children who are neither. Let’s not forget about them either!

  17. Ancin47

    March 12, 2022 at 6:29 pm

    The first step is to realize they aren’t broken.
    They were designed to function in this manner.

  18. Hermann Brummer

    March 12, 2022 at 6:33 pm

    9 times more people are incarcerated in the US compared with Germany. That’s huge.
    And I don’t feel unsecure here.
    That’s crazy.

  19. Tyrankoos

    March 12, 2022 at 6:54 pm

    you can reform the police . might as well try to reform the Nazis

  20. B Z

    March 12, 2022 at 6:59 pm

    18 year old: I know why its a law and therefore don’t do it

    17 year old: Legally, Im not required to know why its a law, and if I break it, I will get a pass.

    *LAWS DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD*

    • Feroce

      March 13, 2022 at 1:59 am

      In a lawless society anyone could get away with killing you and taking your stuff. Angry mobs and revenge murders would be the only form of justice, and irrational people have no sense of right and wrong so innocent people can end up being lynched. Laws exist for a good reason.

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    March 12, 2022 at 7:58 pm

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  22. Levi Efrauim

    March 12, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    Bleeding heart liberals. This is why the country is so screwed up right now.

  23. Emang Gitulah

    March 12, 2022 at 10:03 pm

    I thought they were going to address the imperial system… Nvm

  24. Mary Patricia

    March 13, 2022 at 3:19 am

    If you think you can be financially stable, Alright and free with monthly earnings or little struggles then I must say we are wrong because the government doesn’t care we struggle hard for ourselves not government .

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      March 13, 2022 at 5:06 am

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      March 13, 2022 at 5:06 am

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      March 13, 2022 at 5:15 am

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  25. listen2meokidoki

    March 13, 2022 at 12:35 pm

    So much confusion here. Justice is a balancing act. There is no way to define the future. If you don’t want to be hit by a bus, do you ban buses? Or will you take responsibility into your own hands & watch where you’re going? Or do you FEEL the buses are coming after you?

  26. listen2meokidoki

    March 13, 2022 at 12:49 pm

    This is a lecture only teenagers can think up.

  27. listen2meokidoki

    March 13, 2022 at 12:58 pm

    TED has been taken over. Assuming it ever was independent, trustworthy and principled. Follow the money. Or so they say in some TED talks. But that is a dogma that should cut both ways.

  28. Joshua W

    March 13, 2022 at 1:17 pm

    just make sure you don’t swing too far to the other side in your attempt to reconcile the imbalance in the system

  29. Carlos Leon

    March 13, 2022 at 1:59 pm

    private prison system = profit motivation

    • Emm N.

      March 13, 2022 at 4:33 pm

      And yet 92% of inmates are not in the private prison system… huh! I wonder what some of those opportunists are doing ignoring all of the mega profits they could be making! How very unamerican of them!

  30. Emm N.

    March 13, 2022 at 4:22 pm

    Nothing more sus than a clip with likes disabled. TED, YT did you a favor to hide the dislike stats, but that wasn’t enough, was it?

  31. ranch man

    March 13, 2022 at 11:25 pm

    Kill the rich, easy.

  32. GZ-R

    March 14, 2022 at 12:23 am

    What would you suggest be the right tool to stop people from shoplifting in SF considering that it is not a violent crime?

  33. imjonlacey

    March 14, 2022 at 1:18 am

    Very good talk.. my take away is Defund hands on physical policing and reallocate those dollars to Funding the soft skill policing in the system

  34. anjunadeep.

    March 14, 2022 at 2:24 am

    There are more than 2 systems in US that’s broken beyond repair.

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