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Colin Steinberg
June 23, 2020 at 11:23 pm
But I NEED a new one NOW
Dang Vue
June 23, 2020 at 11:24 pm
if you want bootcamp i say get that intel base now!
RpM_Evan
June 23, 2020 at 11:25 pm
too late. I got a 4 port pro yesterday!!
OrganicNoob
June 23, 2020 at 11:27 pm
💀💀💀
Jacob Persaud
June 23, 2020 at 11:26 pm
Will the new iPhone event in September be like WWDC (online)
Kyei Justice
June 23, 2020 at 11:32 pm
Possibly yeah
Niles Guy
June 23, 2020 at 11:27 pm
Dude he mentioned the worst buggy game of 2020 fallout 76 and wanting it to come to Mac . Epic failure
nachodorito
June 23, 2020 at 11:29 pm
What would be cheaper, the $500 ARMac mini + $100 dev account or the release Mac mini with “apple silicon”
Channing Chea
June 23, 2020 at 11:33 pm
That developer ARMac might technically be cheaper, but it doesn’t have the same i/o as the normal Mac mini. So you might want to hold off anyway.
Youssef
June 24, 2020 at 1:01 am
you dont keep the developer ARMac, you have to return it
Aahil Rogers
June 23, 2020 at 11:31 pm
Damn, this is so frustrating because I need a new computer now!
iApple World
June 23, 2020 at 11:40 pm
What do you need it for? Because many uses of the Mac are already on the iPad
OrangeSheep14
June 23, 2020 at 11:31 pm
First
Vanessa Kua
June 23, 2020 at 11:31 pm
I bought the macbook 16” yesterday though… still happy with it 🙂
Halo epic
June 23, 2020 at 11:32 pm
Vanessa Kua it’s good but the arm will better in performance and won’t get hot
Nardotini
June 23, 2020 at 11:43 pm
There are two types of people in this world and that’s both right there 😂😂😂^^
SchwiftyBubba
June 24, 2020 at 1:24 am
There will always be something new! lol enjoy your Mac and congratulations
Kyei Justice
June 23, 2020 at 11:33 pm
My question is, will boot camp still be functional? If yes would it better than the intel experience in boot camp?
haxen2k
June 23, 2020 at 11:35 pm
Lmao. I want to buy Air 2020 but i am so confused rn. What If will we wait for ARM and then it’s not going to be so great as expected?
George An.
June 24, 2020 at 12:59 am
Air 2020 user here, the perfomance is awful. I regret buying Air. Buy Pro instead. Even the cheapest Pro will be better than Air
Julio Angelx
June 23, 2020 at 11:39 pm
Outstanding video! , was waiting to hear your point of view, thanks!
mitsovios rex
June 23, 2020 at 11:40 pm
Yeah, finally a headline I agree with! Wait till I have enough money to afford it. Then wait abit more till I have enough money for other things as well.
Kevin Barry
June 23, 2020 at 11:42 pm
Apparently children think forever is 15 years
Serg Valero
June 23, 2020 at 11:44 pm
The same problem as always… should I wait for something better, should I choose the cheap one…
Esmond Msimango
June 23, 2020 at 11:46 pm
I am happy with my MacBook Pro 16inch intel core i9 16GB 1TB
S4njuro
June 23, 2020 at 11:55 pm
How about because they are MASSIVELY overpriced????
Be Low Below
June 24, 2020 at 12:38 am
Massively **profitable
ThexBorg
June 24, 2020 at 12:06 am
2022 for the Next Gen MacBook 💻
The demo was already faster than any intel box…
Le Chat Botté
June 24, 2020 at 12:34 am
nope
Elitepresshd
June 24, 2020 at 12:08 am
don’t listen to this video. now is a great time to buy a mackbook air or pro. it’s 100 cheaper and apple is throwing in a few a free airpod for back to school
Mr. Charizma
June 24, 2020 at 12:22 am
I need that intro music NOW 😱
Be Low Below
June 24, 2020 at 12:38 am
Enough.
The Frugal Audiophile
June 24, 2020 at 12:44 am
Yeah, I would say if you want to run Boot Camp for the for seeable future get an Intel based Mac soon.
W
June 24, 2020 at 1:13 am
damn was going to upgrade to a 2020 Air from my old 2015 pro & now I’m just torn between waiting for like an unknown lengthy period for ARM or buying now but with the annual summer student discounts + beats. ffs
Zachary Thomas
June 24, 2020 at 1:16 am
They come with AirPods this summer for the student discount.
Ismail Adiputra
June 24, 2020 at 1:15 am
If you really need it, get it now. First arm based might have compatibility issues. Even apple thinks it will take two years to transition.
KingBowser
June 24, 2020 at 1:15 am
better idea BUY A PC!
Corinna K
June 24, 2020 at 4:55 pm
Has anybody a better suggestion than a MacBook? I just need one to watch movies and maybe google stuff/ type papers… I’m so clueless. Can somebody help??
Greg Quarery
June 24, 2020 at 5:32 pm
Currently on 2013 MBP 13″, I have waited since 2015 for a usable laptop upgrade. No more. I am buying 10th gen Intel today, and will wait for second gen ARM from Apple, after first adopters smooth out the corners.
Jakub Škoda
June 24, 2020 at 8:30 pm
I will probably do the same… Seems the most reasonable
Cesar Battistini Maziero
June 24, 2020 at 6:08 pm
Battery is not the same in windows and Mac! I work all day on a charge everyone else in the office is plugged in all the time.
sherri moquin
June 24, 2020 at 7:41 pm
Does anyone know what happened to the 3:59 show that cnet did 🤔
StyleSystems
June 24, 2020 at 8:03 pm
I’d buy one now if you plan of playing PC games running bootcamp and windows 10 on a mac. Once they go arm, the games will be almost nonexistent even for ARM windows.
Arnel Mercado
June 24, 2020 at 8:15 pm
“I see Apple news, I dislike”
Ricardo Tapia
June 24, 2020 at 8:31 pm
Wish this video came out sooner. I literally just bought a new MacBook pro 🤦♂️
OMGz1122
June 24, 2020 at 8:36 pm
I just want a iMac that’s not exclusively for media experts
Louis Luzuka
June 24, 2020 at 9:02 pm
What if you want a 16” MacBook pro for youtube and editing videos?
Super Saiyan 3
June 24, 2020 at 10:07 pm
Its fine for that
Ron Reyes
June 24, 2020 at 9:29 pm
Surface X for me has been a great windows on Arm experience, so I don’t know what this guy’s talking about for the if windows will run on Arm
Karen
June 24, 2020 at 9:43 pm
*No hacker will ever run MacOS on a raspberry pi.*
Super Saiyan 3
June 24, 2020 at 10:00 pm
2014 macbook pro here should i wait or buy a 16
Luis Gonzalez
June 24, 2020 at 11:34 pm
I wonder how much those Mac minis are gonna cost?
Dincic Alex
June 24, 2020 at 11:37 pm
i ordered 2weeks ago 2020 macbook pro 13” and still out of stock
Daniel Cohen
June 24, 2020 at 11:45 pm
Will wait until the 2nd generation.
Marco V
June 24, 2020 at 11:58 pm
If you need to upgrade upgrade. No use in waiting for something that has no release date
airacutie1
June 24, 2020 at 11:59 pm
I am occasional Mac gamer – sad face 🙁
Mathi Kannan
June 25, 2020 at 12:07 am
The difference between this jump, and the previous one from power pc to Intel is massive. When apple switched to Intel, the x86 processors were so powerful they could emulate powerpc with ease. ARM on the other hand already struggles to run a full windows experience, let alone run advanced x86 applications. Apple will no doubt make it work somehow eventually, but if you’re someone who’s buying a MacBook pro or above for heavy use, it makes little sense to move to ARM or wait for it in the foreseeable future.
taurus20077
June 25, 2020 at 12:08 am
Besides Mac Mini, I bet you there will be a 14″ MacBook with ARM chip by the end of the year!
Mark Job
June 25, 2020 at 12:15 am
*OMG ! OF course ! YES ! Do buy the latest Intel based CPU MacBook Pro 16, as it is 1. The fastest Production Consummer Laptop in the world for Digital Content Creation currently, and 2. Catalina is currently the end of a Mac OS which is a very mature platform right now. Do you really want to wait, and take a full frontal dive into the great unknown, investing in a new OS and a new (unproven) hardware CPU solution ? New platforms often have big bugs to work out, while proven systems work better for mission critical work.*
dacypher22
June 25, 2020 at 12:17 am
As a software developer, I am now a bit stumped on what to do. Kind of odd that Apple’s announcement was at WWDC, a developer event, and there didn’t seem to be a lot of direction for me. My concern is losing not only Xcode (for a while at the most), but .NET Core, node and tons of other tools, compilers and other things I use. I was just coming up on wanting to get a new, high-end Macbook Pro. Now I am thinking the best course of action may be to go ahead and upgrade and then plan on getting a lower-end ARM Mac (maybe a Mac Mini like discussed) to use as both an app target and also to dip my toes into the ARM Mac world and see if I can survive in it. Not sure what other developers using Macs are thinking about doing.
Elon Fucking Musk
June 25, 2020 at 12:49 am
Nah don’t wait. If you need a new laptop buy one. If you buy one now you know exactly what you’re getting. You don’t know if the next MacBook will be a 12 inch MacBook, MacBook Air or MacBook Pro. There’s rumors but it’s just rumors at this point. If you want a specific kind of MacBook you don’t know how long you’d be waiting. What if they only release a low end MacBook Pro and don’t update the high end MacBook that just came out 2 months ago? What if the next MacBook with ARM has recalls due to some random issue? Maybe it could be a 14 inch micro led MacBook with 120fps but we don’t know what’s in store. Better to buy a good machine knowing it’ll perform well and be stable for next 4-5 years for sure. But if your MacBook is running fine and it’ll be fine for the next 2 years then yeah wait it out. Intel macbooks may be cheaper later on and you’ll always have that option a year or 2 from now
Dave Meise
June 25, 2020 at 12:52 am
Two adds at the introduction? No way is that acceptable with our ad saturated society. I’m not watching videos with too many adds anymore!
S
June 25, 2020 at 1:00 am
Well mine just got delivered
Zidaan Tumbi
June 25, 2020 at 1:01 am
I GOT AN NEW AIR LIKE THREE MONTHS AGO. :/
TheGQBrotha
June 25, 2020 at 10:33 am
I have the 2018 Mac Mini Core i7 with 32GB of Ram and a Vega 56 eGPU. The mini does run very hot and fans kick in when I play “8K 60fps videos” from Youtube and it starts to thermal throttle affecting the playback. Can see the thermal throttling happening in Intel Power Gadget App. So I’m very interested in what an ARM Mini will run like. I won’t be getting any first gen Arms until I see the performance comparisons though. Hope its worth the wait.
Meligy
June 25, 2020 at 11:09 am
Any news/rumors about a CPU refresh of MacBook Pro 16 this year?
Big Master
June 25, 2020 at 11:32 am
FINALY THE VIDEO THAT I WANTED
Kostya Morozov
June 25, 2020 at 12:13 pm
Cool 🤑
gt3rs
June 25, 2020 at 12:46 pm
The silicon take from Huawei 😆
StealthHunter
June 25, 2020 at 1:51 pm
I just bought a macbook pro a week ago. Should I take up that 14 day return policy :P?
Irshad Abdul Shakoor
June 25, 2020 at 2:50 pm
Does iPad and iOS app will work on Intel Mac like arm Mac?
Alien YT
June 25, 2020 at 2:58 pm
The question is: what are they going to price the arm based macs?
Christopher Lochan
June 25, 2020 at 7:56 pm
EXACTLY. poor ppl want macs too! 🙂
Laurent Bourgon
June 25, 2020 at 2:58 pm
However, Apple clearly said it is planned for at least 2 years. Currently, developers can purchase a Mac mini with an ARM processor, but it is not the final version. Then there’s the problem with first gen, it is always recommended to wait a few months/next generation. Also, Apple clearly said Intel and ARM will live together for a few years (just like PowerPC and Intel a few years ago). By the time they won’t support Intel anymore, it will be because ARM is stable/well made and the Intels aren’t working great anymore. So if you have a relatively new laptop, yes you should wait, but it doesn’t mean you can’t replace your laptop now if you need it.
Ektawan RUNGPANYARAT
June 25, 2020 at 3:15 pm
Bye Intel….
Wayne C.
June 25, 2020 at 4:11 pm
To showcase and emphasis the difference in efficiency, putting the chip on MacBooks first makes more sense since battery life for a laptop that pushes past say 15 hours would be a game changer compared to the news that a Mac mini is now running more efficiently. Then again, they might come out with both 🙂
Anurag
June 25, 2020 at 5:15 pm
getting thrown out of house of windows would be late but deathbed of intel is ready 😀 😀 Windows and every OS will be going for ARM RISC version chips no doubt.
TzzSmk
June 25, 2020 at 5:34 pm
I’d politely argue the attitude is probably wrong,
Apple Developer Kit (ARM Mac Mini) is basically running same CPU chip as current iPad Pro, and (therefore) also does NOT have any Thunderbolt, so if there are people who haven’t bought iPad Pro and are considering MacBook Pro instead, then they would be most likely disappointed with ARM-based MacBook anyway,
Apple boasts relatively easy and quick migration of the apps, but as a matter of fact most complex audio/video/graphics software coded for Intel uses some more complex libraries and code, which definitely cannot be recompiled within few days,
emulated environment during transition years is inevitable, but seeing Microsoft’s Surface Pro X being basically unusable with Intel/AMD-based apps since October 2019 and almost year later there’s zero changes to that situation, I wouldn’t expect MacOS devs doing any different, unless they’re already offering iOS/iPadOS apps (of which most are not really aimed towards MacBook Pro “power users” anyway)
also Apple hasn’t mentioned anything about hardware support, drivers etc.. so if camera, audio interface, video capture card, external graphics card, optical drive, thunderbolt external drive etc.. won’t work (at least initially) then there’s no advantage to the new tech either
Lord Adams
June 25, 2020 at 5:34 pm
Sana all
Michelle Adame
June 25, 2020 at 6:21 pm
According to Louis Rossman, they have inadequate cooling. My computer engineer friends concur. I prefer Mac OS, though my iMac is slow as molasses. Inadequate cooling is a real deal breaker for performance.
Markus Hahn
June 25, 2020 at 6:50 pm
Intel macs won’t be any worse and will still be supported for a long time
zea31907
June 25, 2020 at 7:36 pm
I’m going give it a couple models before i buy a MacBook with their own chips.
Ross Peterson
June 25, 2020 at 8:10 pm
All I need to know is will I be able to create my own desktop computer and run Mac on it
Jeffrey Haines
June 25, 2020 at 10:12 pm
I’m in a position where I need a new one but I don’t but I actually really do.. and it’s awkward and agonizing
Jeffrey Haines
June 25, 2020 at 10:15 pm
What would happen if Microsoft announced complete transition to Arm?? The world would flip upside down. I wonder if they could even legally do that.
Migs Quin
June 25, 2020 at 11:12 pm
Why am I watching this when I just got my new MacBook
Jason Cabassi
June 25, 2020 at 11:45 pm
Pretty sure you can play all the Apple Arcade games on the Mac right now.
Alex McCaffrey
June 26, 2020 at 12:17 am
In 2020 you shouldn’t wait. MacOS on ARM isn’t even out yet.
Jaden Riddle
June 26, 2020 at 1:05 am
Just as I was about to buy a 16 inch MacBook Pro to edit videos and do college work on they go and announce this and have me questioning if I should hold off…. my current machine is pretty much useless at this point. Any thoughts on if I should wait?
Fundador Lopez
June 26, 2020 at 1:23 am
Alan Kay once said: “People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware.”
David Lee
June 26, 2020 at 6:33 am
I’m waiting for that Macbook Pro 16in with wifi 6 and 10nm cpu…
Azizul Bin Ahmad Shafawi
June 26, 2020 at 6:47 am
if you need Windows VM, buy now….
Ali Dilshaad
June 26, 2020 at 7:28 am
Chris pratt ??
mega weasel
June 26, 2020 at 7:41 am
Can’t wait for macs to be insanely powerful because they’re no longer restricted by intel
Joni Sin
June 26, 2020 at 8:45 am
Just build cheap hackintosh while waiting ARM Mac 👌
Steven H
June 26, 2020 at 9:10 am
Nah get a PC so you’re allowed to do things and learn how to use a computer. Apple throttles your potential knowledge as well as lowering the ceiling of what you can do with the computer.
S L
June 26, 2020 at 11:24 am
🙄
Farhan Tech fan
June 26, 2020 at 9:21 am
get a mac thats it,i was waitng for 14 inch macbook after the redesign of 16 and just 13 inch macbook with magic keyboard 2020
then i realise only 1 month for wwdc no hardware im getting 13 inch macbook pro 10th gen intel or base 16 inch macbook
Chukwudi Ezeukwu
June 26, 2020 at 9:22 am
Apple Silicon on Mac Pro vs AMD Threadripper
Mala Thomas
June 26, 2020 at 6:20 pm
Theard ripper is obviously more powerful but would consume more watts
Sumukh Shetty
June 26, 2020 at 10:20 am
Buy current MacBooks now update after complete transition is done that is after 2 years you won’t regret. 1st gens are trial version at which apple lacks efficiency
Djoko Triono
June 26, 2020 at 10:58 am
I wish for a nice farewell from Apple, they would include update to Bootcamp to use finger print. I don’t mind using my 16 as full fledged windows machine since I work in windows but prefer apple hardware
UppiliRa
June 26, 2020 at 11:07 am
Best to wait a few years and use a notebook and pen instead and then when my business had failed and I don’t need a MacBook any more I can get a MacBook maybe lol
TA PA
June 26, 2020 at 11:41 am
I want a MacBook Pro 14, extra slim and 24h battery life!
Dominic Tunstall
June 26, 2020 at 11:53 am
I want to purchase a maxed out MBP 16″ with updated GPU – when will they stop supporting the device? Why would they do this to millions of customers worldwide? How long until the machine is redundant?
Louis #
June 26, 2020 at 2:48 pm
they will continue to support it for years. Maybe 5-7years 😉
Grace Redwood
June 26, 2020 at 4:09 pm
I had to buy a new laptop two weeks ago because my 11+ year old Mac died. Will my new $1500.00 laptop be a big paperweight soon? Does this mean I will only get about 2 years out of this laptop?
peppa’s crocs
June 26, 2020 at 5:46 pm
my poor mac book pro 2020 now feels so old now
DRT-Official
June 26, 2020 at 6:57 pm
I BOUGHT ONE FOR CHRISTMAS ARE YOU Fu**in kidding meeee?!?!?!?!
Ryan Fisher
June 26, 2020 at 7:57 pm
I’m waiting until silicon MacBooks , I’m hanging onto my 2012 MacBook Air until second generation arm.
bradley biederer
June 26, 2020 at 8:01 pm
I’m still running the 2014 MBP 2.2 i7. It’s still a beast. I can wait awhile more until the Apple silicon Macs have proven how capable they are.
Emiliano Escobedo
June 26, 2020 at 9:00 pm
Just don’t buy a Mac, there are the worst computers on the world, slow, low compatibility, memory get full of updates you cannot delete never at least you reset the computer and lose all your info.
My last three computers where Mac, I really expected they will improve in something but they didn’t.
For the price of one of those metal heating machines, you can buy an Alienware, an Omen, a Predator and for the same price you have more memory, more RAM, more compatibility, better graphics and a lot of stuff you will never have just for paying excessive prices only for a bitten apple.
Robert Andrew
June 26, 2020 at 9:06 pm
Was recommended to harriethacked on *G by a friend and they did a perfect work for me I recommend you to him
Roberto Nicolo Dalmacio
June 26, 2020 at 10:07 pm
I’m pretty worried that buying an intel based Mac now would suck since Apple would only on developing and supporting the new ARM Macs, especially after the two year transition. Would buying an Intel based Mac now mean that I would still get the support for it in the years to come?
karima_a
June 26, 2020 at 11:13 pm
I am a graphic design student and I kinda need a MacBook Pro right now. Should I wait for the ARM one or get the 13’ ?
thegrandfinale2
June 26, 2020 at 11:53 pm
So we’re going back to the mac of the 80s, rocking some weird nonstandard processor that can’t run any of your other software. Useless.
Ray
June 27, 2020 at 12:01 am
does that mean the new macs will have the same access to all the apps like the iphone, like games and other apps we can only get on iphones and ipads