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Why Vegan Cheese Doesn’t Melt | WIRED

The debut of vegan cheese didn’t inspire confidence, but in recent years vegan cheese had become a grocery store staple. But there’s still one problem; vegan cheese won’t melt, stretch, brown or bubble. So, what’s the science behind why vegan cheese doesn’t act like we expect? Still haven’t subscribed to WIRED on YouTube? ►► Listen…

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The debut of vegan cheese didn’t inspire confidence, but in recent years vegan cheese had become a grocery store staple. But there’s still one problem; vegan cheese won’t melt, stretch, brown or bubble. So, what’s the science behind why vegan cheese doesn’t act like we expect?

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200 Comments

  1. Austin The Hokage

    September 7, 2021 at 9:18 pm

    Before today I didn’t know there was a such thing as a cheese researcher 💀

  2. Alan Roth

    September 7, 2021 at 9:24 pm

    It’s not real cheese. It’s processed food!! Processed food is not good for you.

    • LifeUntilLove

      September 7, 2021 at 10:23 pm

      Cheese is a processed food.

    • kazauksp

      September 7, 2021 at 10:24 pm

      Because you believe real cheese is not processed? Do you believe it get out of the cow like that?

  3. Adipose Rex

    September 7, 2021 at 9:31 pm

    Dairy cheese is unhealthy due to caseine. Vegan cheese is made with oil – equally unhealthy but compassionate.

    • babecat2000

      September 7, 2021 at 10:05 pm

      wrong cheese is fine in moderation.

  4. Tyler Heinings

    September 7, 2021 at 9:38 pm

    Domino’s, “now with real… Oh never mind they liked the fake cheese better.”

  5. oneclickandclosed

    September 7, 2021 at 9:43 pm

    🤢

  6. Rich Mahogany

    September 7, 2021 at 9:46 pm

    “two cheese researchers” lol

  7. Potato Man

    September 7, 2021 at 9:50 pm

    Wow I want to become cheese researcher too

  8. God Left

    September 7, 2021 at 9:53 pm

    Empathy won’t force the industry to adapt, only profit

  9. jd

    September 7, 2021 at 10:00 pm

    How Scientists Are Making Vegan Cheese Melt Like Dairy Cheese?

    You dont. lmao

  10. Jules c

    September 7, 2021 at 10:15 pm

    Whoever makes a really good and healthy vegan cheese will become mega rich!

  11. babecat2000

    September 7, 2021 at 10:26 pm

    eww Gross. If you don’t want natural food then what is the point? If you have to be a vegan then eat normal food like beans ,soybeans, wheat, etc.

  12. DLR

    September 7, 2021 at 10:38 pm

    @thatveganteacher

  13. Luciano Sturm

    September 7, 2021 at 10:54 pm

    Just eat the regular murican cheese, there’s no real cheese ingredients there anyway! 🤣

  14. dontwatch(dot)org

    September 7, 2021 at 10:59 pm

    Watch dairy explained in 5 minutes on YouTube

  15. carla b

    September 7, 2021 at 11:02 pm

    If I need a dorn scientist to make food for me I don’t need to be eating it 😢

  16. Kenneth Karlsen

    September 7, 2021 at 11:20 pm

    I doubt industrializing was veganisms goal. Loosing nutrients and wrecking your food, to still be able to eat as you wasn’t vegan.. err.. it’s Goodbye health. Do clean food, sure, that’s awesome. But stop this nonsense.

  17. Alesster101

    September 7, 2021 at 11:23 pm

    Why does vegan cheese doesn’t melt? Because it’s not real cheese I reckon.

  18. Dee Ca.

    September 7, 2021 at 11:25 pm

    Just eat real cheese you tards!

  19. Hermitey Perez Triana

    September 7, 2021 at 11:42 pm

    Call it “cheese imitation”, which is what it really is.

    • Hazrat Muhazmat

      September 8, 2021 at 12:19 am

      Doing through chemistry what the cow does naturally.

  20. Randy

    September 7, 2021 at 11:50 pm

    Stupidity has no limits in terms of a vegan culture

  21. Kyle Saunders

    September 8, 2021 at 12:31 am

    Why can’t vegans just eat vegetables?

  22. Ignacio Suárez

    September 8, 2021 at 12:59 am

    I believe it was vegan chess, i was like wtf🤡

  23. Xanii’s nerf gun

    September 8, 2021 at 1:03 am

    Cosmic skeptic will be happy

  24. Mykasan

    September 8, 2021 at 1:20 am

    i need this. i want this. I want better vegetarian options. the textures are wrong to me.

  25. Torian Cromar

    September 8, 2021 at 8:32 am

    You could always just use non vegan cheese it acts just like normal cheese taste good to

  26. JustJ8

    September 8, 2021 at 9:46 am

    GO VEGAN REGARDLESS GOOD PEOPLE! It’s not about the food, it’s about the ethics.

    • lookinglasstie

      September 8, 2021 at 10:44 am

      I argue milking a cow is more ethical than this.

    • Code Name

      September 8, 2021 at 2:02 pm

      Imposing your values on others, including dictating to others what their priorities and person views/needs should be isn’t ethical.

  27. DACHI YT

    September 8, 2021 at 9:57 am

    bro just eat real cheese…

    • JenniferJ Williams

      September 8, 2021 at 1:26 pm

      Some people can’t. It’s called lactose intolerance.

  28. Simte

    September 8, 2021 at 10:13 am

    I have been vegan for over 10 years and it’s truly great to see so many advances in culinary science. 🙂

  29. Prat

    September 8, 2021 at 10:33 am

    Will it be less calories than real cheese?

  30. lookinglasstie

    September 8, 2021 at 10:40 am

    all of this is so unnecessary and wasteful. doing more harm than good.

  31. TheFriskyComiskey !

    September 8, 2021 at 10:49 am

    Or….. Just eat cheese

  32. PopCap Music

    September 8, 2021 at 11:53 am

    Just use breast milk, vegans will not react to that.

    • Code Name

      September 8, 2021 at 2:00 pm

      Oh hush

  33. Prabhjit Singh Thind

    September 8, 2021 at 12:00 pm

    What a waste of research money

  34. Vainius Butkevičius

    September 8, 2021 at 12:24 pm

    Vegans about Vegans likę how you can eat meat but in reality you most stupid people. Think about people who cant eat but you doing good job thinking?

  35. Crackracket

    September 8, 2021 at 12:37 pm

    I want to be a cheese researcher

  36. SHEIKHWEST

    September 8, 2021 at 1:05 pm

    All this cause someone decided eating animals is bad

  37. Xavier Paul

    September 8, 2021 at 1:09 pm

    Eww it’s cheesy

  38. Taiga

    September 8, 2021 at 2:02 pm

    I’m not vegan but this will certainly life changing

  39. Olivia Ivory-Hawkes

    September 8, 2021 at 2:30 pm

    What if people don’t want to switch to vegan cheese? We need real calcium not everyone can be vegan.

    • Robin

      September 8, 2021 at 2:54 pm

      T-then don’t buy it?

  40. Angela Ruge

    September 8, 2021 at 3:48 pm

    My kid is lactose intolerant, I love it that products like this exist!

  41. PennsylJersey

    September 8, 2021 at 4:04 pm

    I think that when it comes to switching to vegan alternatives, starting this switch when people are young is essential. While I understand the need to create cheeses that mimic different types of cheeses, focusing on cheeses children eat will make the transition and sustainability for vegan cheeses stronger. “get them when they’re young and you’ll get them for life”

  42. Nuno Carneiro

    September 8, 2021 at 6:43 pm

    If you are vegan you don’t need cheese why are you trying to make some crap that looks like cheese but it isn’t, if you are vegan just own it and eat just vegetables

  43. arthur christoff

    September 8, 2021 at 8:06 pm

    3:42 looks very sussy, looking very among us

    • Corilo91

      September 9, 2021 at 4:47 am

      S U S

  44. Graham Belfield

    September 8, 2021 at 10:16 pm

    Lol. Violife vegan cheeze melts a beaut. Poor reporting

    • josh swain

      September 9, 2021 at 3:47 pm

      It doesn’t melt like real cheese

    • Graham Belfield

      September 9, 2021 at 11:09 pm

      @josh swain tell that to my vegan mac and cheese

  45. TheGreatHuz

    September 8, 2021 at 10:43 pm

    Instead of doing all of this, how about we make cheese the way its always been made.

    • Corilo91

      September 9, 2021 at 4:46 am

      For three main reasons: Animal farming is unsustainable, it’s wrong to abuse and exploit other sentient beings, many peoples are lactose intolerant.

  46. Andrew C

    September 8, 2021 at 11:35 pm

    because its not cheese. duh.

  47. professorM

    September 8, 2021 at 11:55 pm

    Nobell Foods is genetically mod their soybeans to make casein. Their cheese products are coming out in 2023.

  48. Leah Murphy

    September 9, 2021 at 2:18 am

    Wired should make a video explaining why so many social media videos are using computer synthesized narration voices, like this one.

  49. Kale Queen

    September 9, 2021 at 3:02 am

    Beautiful!

  50. danny key

    September 9, 2021 at 1:50 pm

    Just eat normal cheese for the love pf god

  51. John Morris

    September 9, 2021 at 2:16 pm

    Because it is not cheese?

  52. Vienna 35

    September 9, 2021 at 2:33 pm

    Aren’t Mikrobes very very very small animals?
    Or am I a Nobrainer?

    • Kam Corder

      September 9, 2021 at 8:50 pm

      They’re considered vegan, hence the popularity of nutritional yeast in the plant-based world.

  53. Meow Holly Meow

    September 9, 2021 at 3:51 pm

    Vegan cheese tastes more like American and velveta than cheese, but they are getting there

  54. Meow Holly Meow

    September 9, 2021 at 3:57 pm

    Is it just totally out of the question to make fake cows milk, like lab grown genetically same as cows milk, and then use that to make cheese?

  55. Maya D

    September 9, 2021 at 6:22 pm

    Next they gotta make the Dandies marshmallows more meltable for rice krispies. 👏

  56. Haru Krentz

    September 9, 2021 at 8:39 pm

    I didnt even know vegan cheese existed lol

  57. Andrew Nigsian

    September 9, 2021 at 9:20 pm

    As a vegan, I never buy plant based cheese, not just because they don’t melt, but that they are laced with coconut oil which is saturated fat. I simply don’t think plant based cheese is that much healthier than their animal counterparts.

    • Anjali Singh

      September 10, 2021 at 2:57 am

      So u just never eat cheese?
      No cheeseburgers, no pizzas?
      That’s kinda sad man ngl

    • Andrew Nigsian

      September 10, 2021 at 4:15 am

      @Anjali Singh You’d be surprised how much delicious food there is in the vegan world.

  58. BloodyVostok

    September 9, 2021 at 10:31 pm

    Because it aint cheese???

  59. DoJo Mast3r

    September 9, 2021 at 10:36 pm

    Smoked Applewood Cheese melts perfectly!!! Its literally the only vegan cheese I buy now, chao cheese isnt bad either.
    Sometimes I like to splurge and buy some artisan cashew cheese, that stuff is the bomb…

  60. Anne Preciado

    September 10, 2021 at 12:05 am

    Also doesnt have a lot of nutrients if any at all….

  61. Jamie

    September 10, 2021 at 1:03 am

    I don’t care if it melts or tastes just like real cheese. I will always choose real cheese!

  62. Cash Eye

    September 10, 2021 at 1:26 am

    I am not vegan but I do like a lot of vegan food but Vegan cheese is disgusting to me

  63. Saad Md Shihab Sultan

    September 10, 2021 at 2:44 am

    White people 😒

  64. Anjali Singh

    September 10, 2021 at 2:56 am

    I’m happy how people in the comments are not insulting vegans/veganism and actually totally cool with people being vegan
    That’s great👍🏼👍🏼

  65. Christian Calibo

    September 10, 2021 at 3:06 am

    DUDE JUST EAT REAL CHEESE

    • Jorn de Boer

      September 10, 2021 at 3:38 pm

      Vegans want cheese without animal murder 🙂

  66. Many_Lives

    September 10, 2021 at 4:16 am

    Why vegan cheese doesn’t melt: because its f***n fake!!!

  67. Misty Birdbush

    September 10, 2021 at 5:19 am

    Well, you didn’t test @hellofriendfoods vegan cheese sauce – bubbles, melts, browns. And their vegan Haloumi is also amazing! Actually all their cheeses are 👏🏼

    • Reshi Bunny

      September 12, 2021 at 2:05 pm

      fr! Ive definitely had vegan cheeses that act like dairy…. no idea what theyre talking about-

  68. Rox Requiem

    September 10, 2021 at 9:04 am

    Cheese of the future maybe, but that would only be so if it can not only be reliably mass produced, but sold at a very cheap price as to contend with traditional cheese and other non-vegan products. I am an avid fan of the vegan diet, but sadly it can be quite costly, especially with how my existence is grounded on a 3rd world country.

    A switch in lifestyle is always welcome if the benefits outweigh the costs.

  69. ConflictedCrisis

    September 10, 2021 at 1:46 pm

    I’m glad to see so much more interest in vegan and dairy free alternatives in the past few years, but this new development of non animal sourced casein is actually a huge upset for me, being allergic to dairy. As long as it’s properly labeled and casein-free sticks around, its not too bad, but labeling a vegan cheese as such while containing casein can certainly have severe consequences for those who have allergies! Please be mindful of this 🙂

    • Roxanne Gutierrez

      September 13, 2021 at 6:43 pm

      It really is the future. There is no way we can keep going the way we have been forever. Something has got to give.

  70. Emmanuel

    September 10, 2021 at 1:59 pm

    I don’t care about being vegan but if it’s CHEAPER then people will definitely eat less meat

  71. Mu Ham

    September 10, 2021 at 2:01 pm

    “Cheese researchers”

    I have found my calling

  72. gentlemantleman

    September 10, 2021 at 2:36 pm

    потому что сделан из говна

  73. iYou iTry

    September 10, 2021 at 5:22 pm

    Many brands of vegan cheeses already better in texture and taste compared to dairy cheeses! They even melt when heated! Actually many types of vegan cheese are tastier when heated

  74. Nora Brakie

    September 10, 2021 at 11:09 pm

    Cheese researchers. I have found my calling.

  75. Beef Juice

    September 11, 2021 at 12:06 am

    drammatic music for vegantown big problems

  76. Nooters

    September 11, 2021 at 2:25 am

    I get vegetarian diets, but vegan logic are just irrelevant. The only real use for cheeses that are vegan are for lactose intolerant. Would be better off targetted for them instead of stinky vegans.

  77. Lurk Skywalker

    September 11, 2021 at 2:27 am

    Seems to melt of you wet it. Vegan grilled cheese/quesadillas/etc. melts if you put some sort of a metal pot over to contain the heat!

  78. Susan P

    September 11, 2021 at 7:10 am

    I make vegan nut-free mozzarella in 10 minutes without cooking, and it melts, stretches and grills on pizza perfectly well. It is tested by Italians too.

    • RPKing *

      September 11, 2021 at 11:27 pm

      Do you have a recipe or link to a video?

  79. Michael Stevens

    September 11, 2021 at 9:24 am

    Vegan cheese doesnt melt because it cannot be gone

  80. SOUVIK NAYAK

    September 11, 2021 at 2:29 pm

    Vegans claim that they didn’t consume any thing except plant based products. But in case of cheese, we have to use microbes. So, how it qualify as a vegan food?

    • RPKing *

      September 11, 2021 at 11:37 pm

      Microbes are not sentient.

    • james byrne

      September 14, 2021 at 10:04 am

      I’m sorry but you’re too stupid to contribute to the discussion.

  81. ro pro

    September 11, 2021 at 3:58 pm

    Blech. Dairy based cheeses til I die.

  82. Panel SM

    September 11, 2021 at 8:03 pm

    “We need a fraction of land and water”
    To harvest the plants that are ingredients in plant based milk coconut, soybeans, cashew etc you would need at least 10x the land to produce the same amount of milk. And of course growing them takes time while cow’s give milk every day. You cannot match the efficiency. Also cow’s are not dependent on temperature and weather in a normal sense.
    I am all for having and options, and i am fine with every vegan unless they are trying to make me the “bad guy”.
    I just don’t give credit where it’s not due.
    Plant based milk production is unsustainable if we where to stop drinking cow milk one day. We would have to plant all the earth with soy and we still wouldn’t have enough milk for everyone.

    • RPKing *

      September 11, 2021 at 11:26 pm

      You are forgetting about the land used to grow the plants to feed the cows?
      Plant milk uses less land and water and produces less carbon emissions.

    • Damien Wilde

      September 12, 2021 at 8:06 am

      In your logical fallacy you fail to see that with less animal agriculture, the land mass gained would exponentially cover the losses. Water consumption is lower growing plant mass compared to livestock.

      Cows don’t suddenly produce milk geezer. Only mothers produce milk. Plants are carbon sinks and reduce carbon through photosynthesis, livestock only generates carbon.

      I’ll find you a few studies when I can get near a computer. You’ve just misconstrued a fee facts and figures.

      Although Almond milk is almost as bad as cows milk (note: “almost” not “as bad”).

    • james byrne

      September 14, 2021 at 10:03 am

      You’re a dairy farmer aren’t you?
      Yeah, you’re just wrong. Growing plants to make cheese, does not use more land then breeding cows, growing plants to feed the cows so that they’ll produce milk that can then be turned into cheese.
      That’s silly.

  83. ava parry

    September 12, 2021 at 2:03 am

    Vegan teacher

  84. small footprint

    September 12, 2021 at 7:08 am

    I’ve been veg/vegan for abt 40 years and agree that there’s no good vegan cheese… at least if you’re trying to imitate animal cheese. Plus the vegan cheese is high fat/salt, etc. I’m in it for heath first and foremost.. not really interested any more. Tastes change, and I’m not really interested in anything that tries to imitate something I don’t like or want.

  85. Ozan Akyıldız

    September 12, 2021 at 8:58 am

    Cuz it’s not cheese?

  86. Cloud

    September 12, 2021 at 10:30 am

    2:57 Are the subtitles wrong? It sounded like “heterologous”, said to be the opposite of what the subtitles say – “homologous”

  87. • Faithful Servant •

    September 12, 2021 at 9:20 pm

    Vegan Cheese: I resist

  88. Maria Piedad Choreographer

    September 12, 2021 at 9:32 pm

    Chao cheese bubbles and stretches!

  89. Bella C

    September 12, 2021 at 11:13 pm

    This is so sad for people with CMPA. If my daughter doesn’t outgrow hers she will not be able to consume these in the future.

    • Amy Inglis

      September 14, 2021 at 5:31 pm

      What is CMPA?

    • Bella C

      September 17, 2021 at 1:48 pm

      @Amy Inglis cow’s milk protein allergy. Casein is a cow’s milk protein which is what they’re trying to replicate.

  90. TheGPFilmMaker

    September 13, 2021 at 8:02 pm

    I want to be excited about this…but as someone who’s very very allergic to casein and depends on vegan cheese to get that cheese-adjacent fix the idea of plant based cheese containing a compound I’m allergic to is honestly terrifying.

    • Camille B

      September 15, 2021 at 7:25 pm

      Same. It’s also kind of discouraging as well. The only vegan cheeses that we can eat are the ones that don’t act like real cheese, unfortunately.

  91. james byrne

    September 14, 2021 at 10:08 am

    I guess the short answer is, vegan cheese does melt.
    It’s great that they’re still innovating. There are hundreds of vegan cheeses now and I’ve loved every one I’ve tried.
    I’m excited to try whatever they come up with next.

  92. Cant Tonight, Making Soup

    September 14, 2021 at 11:39 am

    I dont understand why you, as a vegan, want to consume things that look, feel and taste as accurate as the thing you say is not for human consumption?

    • james byrne

      September 14, 2021 at 1:04 pm

      That would be because we don’t object to the look, feel or taste of the product, we object to the violent abuse and exploitation that goes into producing it.

    • Ryan M.

      September 18, 2021 at 7:12 am

      Because we still enjoy these tastes. The issue many vegans have with things like dairy and meat are how they’re obtained, especially industrially.

    • Cant Tonight, Making Soup

      September 18, 2021 at 10:39 pm

      @Ryan M. yeah i understand,its fair. Just heard so many vegans saying that its not for human consumption, and then they just go out of their way to make animal food out of plants😁

  93. Julie Harden

    September 14, 2021 at 1:45 pm

    Chao Original Slices melt pretty well. They are perfect for grilled cheese.

  94. Tansin#Sami

    September 14, 2021 at 8:20 pm

    That’s not even cheese

  95. Master Roshi

    September 14, 2021 at 10:11 pm

    Vegan people trying to retreat non vegan foods is like someone who doesn’t smoke cigarettes sitting in a room full of smoke because they like the smell. Nonsense

    • james byrne

      September 15, 2021 at 1:50 pm

      It’s like making food that you like in a way that does not violently abuse or exploit animals. It’s a pretty straight forward. I’m not sure how you got confused.

  96. Edward Santos

    September 14, 2021 at 11:53 pm

    Simple solution just eat regular cheese 🤷

    • J G

      September 15, 2021 at 12:45 pm

      That’s what I’m saying!

    • james byrne

      September 15, 2021 at 1:51 pm

      That would involve violently abusing, exploiting and killing other sentient creatures. So no, that’s not an option.

    • J G

      September 15, 2021 at 2:21 pm

      @james byrne everything is an option. As long as you’re okay with the moral implications

    • Camille B

      September 15, 2021 at 7:28 pm

      Even if you don’t consider the moral implications (which you should), some people are allergic to dairy and the proteins in it

    • J G

      September 16, 2021 at 12:35 pm

      @Camille B you’re absolutely right. If you are physically unable to consume these products, then by ALL means please avoid them. Unfortunately I am a semi-pro bodybuilder. There are plantbased competitors in my field, but they rarely win anything because animal based proteins make your muscles SO much more dense and full.

    • james byrne

      September 17, 2021 at 9:44 am

      @J G You’re right, if you are okay with violently abusing, exploiting and killing other sentient creatures for your own gratification, then dairy is an option.
      I’m not, so it isn’t.

  97. I'm Tired

    September 15, 2021 at 6:30 am

    Wait what I literally got super gooey vegan mozzarella cheese a few months ago

    • james byrne

      September 15, 2021 at 1:52 pm

      Yeah, there are a bunch of vegan cheeses that melt really nicely. This might be a made up problem.

  98. Erdem Memisyazici

    September 15, 2021 at 10:58 am

    Do vegans eat lab made meats? I mean is the whole deal a hatred of the very concept or not harming animals?

    • I'm Tired

      September 15, 2021 at 4:40 pm

      Depends for everyone

    • Erdem Memisyazici

      September 15, 2021 at 10:39 pm

      @I’m Tired Fascinating. Nobody I know is vegan.

    • Heekamalo Kilo

      September 17, 2021 at 2:06 am

      Lab made meats don’t have to “harm” animals though. Many vegans would be okay with eating those.

    • Erdem Memisyazici

      September 17, 2021 at 7:15 am

      @Heekamalo Kilo Frankly I would prefer that as well. I am not a vegan but anything that brings us closer to beaming food of choice onto the dinner table I whole heartedly support. No keeping living creatures in confined spaces, and you just need a machine to solve hunger indefinitely would be preferrable to the carbon heavy cruel and messy alternative.

  99. Erdem Memisyazici

    September 15, 2021 at 11:01 am

    4:20 Do vegans not care about killing enzymes?

    • james byrne

      September 15, 2021 at 1:46 pm

      Do we care about killing enzymes,… the non living molecules? No strangely we don’t.

    • Erdem Memisyazici

      September 15, 2021 at 3:57 pm

      @james byrne Yea but when enzymes denature, they are no longer active and cannot function. Clearly their structure is one that preserves itself in time and serves a very specific function until it no longer can. Not unlike atoms with non-stable half-lives. So I’m curious where the line is drawn. A nervous system?

      Edited to add:
      Not to mention the protein similarity.

    • Erdem Memisyazici

      September 15, 2021 at 4:16 pm

      @james byrne I really am asking. Proteins are the building blocks of life right? Without enzymes we wouldn’t be alive. Enzymes also can attack bacteria.

      It appears that the enzymes exert their lethal effects by digesting the peptidoglycan in localized areas, forming holes in the cell wall to do so.

      So:
      * – Enzymes are required by living things
      * – They are proteins made up of amino-acids
      * – They have a limited time like living things
      * – They defend us

      But they aren’t alive, because they don’t reproduce the way we do? Some life forms cannot reproduce so are they not alive?

      Enzymes are clearly different than quarks in the vacuum of space, but isn’t the purpose of life to preserve shapes in time?

      So anything that exerts energy to hold a structure in time is trying not to lose that structure wouldn’t you say?

    • Erdem Memisyazici

      September 15, 2021 at 4:41 pm

      @james byrne Once again, I am just trying to understand the concept. So quarks, atoms, not alive. Amino-acids, proteins, enzymes, not alive. Moving up to cells, they *are* alive but not to be eaten unless they have cell walls?

    • Heekamalo Kilo

      September 17, 2021 at 2:05 am

      Vegans don’t eat ORGANISMS who are sentient and feel pain.

    • Erdem Memisyazici

      September 17, 2021 at 7:11 am

      @Heekamalo Kilo Cells have organelles, that sort of makes them organisms I suppose. I thought perhaps a nervous system is what humans tend to think twice about. Carrots don’t scream 😂

    • Heekamalo Kilo

      September 17, 2021 at 7:18 am

      @Erdem Memisyazici Are organelles sentient? Do they feel pain? No. So even if you wanted to consider them as organisms, it wouldn’t make sense to give them the same moral consideration as whole animals.

    • Erdem Memisyazici

      September 18, 2021 at 2:08 am

      @Heekamalo Kilo Cells do fit your definition of living organisms. You prefer the ones you kill and eat to have cell walls.

    • Ryan M.

      September 18, 2021 at 7:09 am

      @Erdem Memisyazici Why do you insist on ignoring their key point of the food not being sentient or able to feel pain?

    • Erdem Memisyazici

      September 18, 2021 at 4:23 pm

      @Ryan M. Those are not key factors that make up living organisms but I certainly am not ignoring anything here.

  100. Dani W.

    September 15, 2021 at 4:29 pm

    Violife melts best imo

  101. Rithik Sebastian

    September 15, 2021 at 5:55 pm

    Wait what do you mean vegan cheese? Huh?? Why are people alive?

  102. Rithik Sebastian

    September 15, 2021 at 5:58 pm

    Can anyone explain what part of milk is “non-vegan”?

    • james byrne

      September 17, 2021 at 9:32 am

      In the dairy industry cows are impregnated so that they’ll produce milk, the male and surplus calves are killed within a few days to a few weeks of being born and the mothers are exploited for their milk until their yield begins to decline at the age of about 4 to 6 year when they are also slaughtered. A cow can live for up to 22 years.
      Dairy is an industry of violence and exploitation, that’s why it’s not vegan.

  103. puja sapui

    September 15, 2021 at 6:00 pm

    Use some glucomanon / seleb it’ll melt 💯

  104. DOAN1000

    September 15, 2021 at 8:40 pm

    No matter what you do it just will never hit like animal cheese .

  105. DOAN1000

    September 15, 2021 at 8:41 pm

    Animal cheese will always be superior

  106. Harish harish

    September 16, 2021 at 10:41 am

    Let those bastards eat spinach why making them cheese when they are so determined about veganism

  107. Vf Photography

    September 16, 2021 at 2:19 pm

    Violife doesn’t melt very well but applewood is amazing!

  108. Ērißz 10

    September 16, 2021 at 8:45 pm

    Lol the title should be:

    Why Vegan Cheese Doesn’t Melt | WEIRD

  109. Mehs Iams

    September 17, 2021 at 8:02 pm

    I will stick with real cheese, these cheese are heavily processed

    • james byrne

      September 17, 2021 at 9:45 pm

      Dairy cheese is heavily processed and that process involves violently abusing, exploiting and killing sentient creatures. So I’ll stick with real vegan cheese.

  110. Simpa Luyolo

    September 17, 2021 at 11:07 pm

    So basically they are working hard to make something that is easily accessible to be inaccessible. Cheese will always be better than a fake cheese

    • james byrne

      September 18, 2021 at 10:24 pm

      Dairy cheese is usually produced by violently exploiting animals though, so vegan cheese is obviously far better.

    • Simpa Luyolo

      September 19, 2021 at 9:09 am

      @james byrne Violent?

    • james byrne

      September 19, 2021 at 7:17 pm

      @Simpa Luyolo What happens to the male and surplus calves that are bred in the dairy industry and what happens to all of the dairy cows once they stop producing enough milk?
      Please just look it up.

  111. The HAWKER

    September 17, 2021 at 11:20 pm

    and that is why ladys and gentlemen i don’t want to be a vegan

    • james byrne

      September 18, 2021 at 10:23 pm

      Being vegan means choosing to avoid violent animal abuse when you can.
      So if we translate what you’ve said here it reads:
      “And that is why ladies and gentlemen I want to continue abusing animals.”

  112. mathilde Fg

    September 18, 2021 at 9:17 am

    What about all the peps intolerant to casein?? I was relieved that I finally had “dairy” products…

  113. scia•machy

    September 19, 2021 at 3:40 am

    Vegans want to be vegan but still trying to mimic non-vegan product.

    • james byrne

      September 21, 2021 at 10:53 am

      Veganism means choosing to avoid violently abusing and exploiting animals.
      So yes, we want products that are made without violently abusing and exploiting animals.
      It seems simple enough.

    • Jay Heece

      September 22, 2021 at 1:58 pm

      You could say that about anything. Lol. Dummy

  114. KIRKSHINTA TURNIPSEED

    September 19, 2021 at 9:32 am

    I had a vegan pizza at brixx pizza
    I had to ask the waitress 3x if she accidentally gave me real cheese

    I weirdly developed a milk allergy last year… milk products makes me violently ill

  115. CodyL95

    September 19, 2021 at 9:34 pm

    So eating products made by bacteria and fungus is still veganism

    • eleanor e

      September 22, 2021 at 3:12 pm

      Yes

  116. Christina S

    September 19, 2021 at 9:40 pm

    Oh wow, I always wondered why it doesn’t! I’ve been a vegan for 8 years and just in that small amount of time we’ve had huge changes in the vegan cheese options available! Even if it doesn’t melt as easily as actual cheese, that’s okay. I’ll stick with my vegan diet because it’s about the animals anyway. 💪😊

  117. Cristina

    September 20, 2021 at 12:34 am

    It’s literally the casein in cheese that makes people addicted because studies have shown it acts similar to opiates in your brain. I’m perfectly fine with vegan cheese without casein, but if they can make options with vegan casein and that helps more people become vegan then I’m all for it.

    • LDI

      September 23, 2021 at 4:25 pm

      It’s the Caso morphine your thinking of. Literally a type of morphine. It’s for the baby to keep returning to mom. We have adults out here seriously consuming breast milk

    • Hamu!

      September 26, 2021 at 12:30 am

      who tf is addicted to cheese omg you act as if sprinkling a bit of parmigiano on pasta is the same as sniffing cocaine

  118. Jahleesa imfurst

    September 20, 2021 at 5:50 am

    Can flax gel or okra goo create the stretch? I mean… in the ingredients for cheese there can be space for that someone name a video and test it out

  119. fred sobel

    September 20, 2021 at 5:52 pm

    I applaud the efforts being made to create plant-based casein. However, that may only get you to the textural characteristics of dairy cheese. What about the flavor profile? Will you rely on so-called “natural flavors” to accomplish that, as everyone currently does, or will you try to use fermentation? The use of “natural flavors”, rampant in the meat and dairy analog category, is a synthetic approach and it often results in an artificial flavor, in my opinion.

  120. Chris Biggs

    September 22, 2021 at 4:28 am

    Fungal systems… mmmm!

  121. Baby Ghoul

    September 22, 2021 at 5:03 am

    We should stop trying to make vegan versions of food and start making up our own complete taste of food.

    • james byrne

      September 25, 2021 at 11:40 am

      Why not both.

  122. B Mell

    September 22, 2021 at 6:27 pm

    Tried vegan cheese well over 10 years ago. It was SO bad, not only did it get thrown in the garbage, but I’ve never bought or eaten it again since then! Ew! 😝😝😝😖.
    Best Regards!! Interesting video!

  123. spanishderp

    September 22, 2021 at 7:18 pm

    Because it’s trash

  124. Kelly Crowson

    September 22, 2021 at 8:37 pm

    We are living in exciting times

  125. jusbeazy28

    September 22, 2021 at 9:55 pm

    Try chao cheese and Violife cheeses. They melt like regular cheese.

  126. Surya Ramakrishna

    September 23, 2021 at 8:53 pm

    at this point can you even call it cheese?

  127. Malibu Pop

    September 24, 2021 at 10:12 am

    everyone always says vegan cheese doesn’t melt but I eat Mac and cheese, grilled cheeses, etc all the time and NEVEr have a problem melting cheese. Am I really the only one?

  128. Brittany Marriott

    September 25, 2021 at 5:22 am

    Lmfao um guys there are about 10 different staple vegan cheeses on the market that melt now.

  129. A

    September 26, 2021 at 1:02 pm

    For homemade vegan cheese: try rice starch and tapioca! There are loads if recipes and some taste very similar to mozzarella and stretches well. Nit the same as real, but the best I’ve found with what we have currently 🙂

  130. Veev

    September 26, 2021 at 11:31 pm

    Wait… vegan cheeses can have nuts? Well add that to the list of things that I need to scour the ingredients list before eating or else I could die :/ I thought cheese of all things would be safe

  131. Alexander Ray

    September 27, 2021 at 3:25 am

    Why didn’t you mention Perfect Day? They already have microbial whey protein (at scale!) on the market in Kroger. Also, the next big challenge is the production of saturated fats in particular since all vegan cheeses (even these engineered casein cheeses you mention) still presumably rely on tropical fruits like coconut or palm for fat.

  132. maman89

    September 27, 2021 at 6:28 am

    because its not cheese

  133. 666Graves

    September 27, 2021 at 8:52 am

    Okay but do y’all not remember when one of those big pizza chains got in trouble for using not real cheese on their pizzas and ppl were mad bc they didn’t really notice??? Where is that cheese!!

  134. Vanessa Marlene

    September 27, 2021 at 8:26 pm

    This is so Interesting

  135. Vanessa Marlene

    September 27, 2021 at 8:27 pm

    Evolution!!

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