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Rouland: China Is Ahead of Us in AI
Phosphorus Cybersecurity CEO and co-founder Chris Rouland joins Caroline Hyde and Ed Ludlow to discuss the growing concerns over China’s espionage activities and AI advances, and what these increased US-China tensions will mean for businesses. ——– Like this video? Subscribe to Bloomberg Technology on YouTube: Watch the latest full episodes of “Bloomberg Technology” with Caroline…
Witness101
June 16, 2023 at 3:36 pm
Literally laughable.
Jack Smith
June 17, 2023 at 3:31 am
Funny is usa trying to instigate china
Witness101
June 16, 2023 at 3:37 pm
Chris Rouland is a complete moron.
mindpuzzle81
June 16, 2023 at 4:32 pm
Snort! China is not ahead of us in AI, they have some capabilities with AI but that does not equate to some how being ahead of the US. Furthermore China is at least a decade behind the US on microprocessors and that distance is now set to grow as the sheer amount of money in China being lost to corruption is just mind boggling.
What you are seeing since Trump took office in 2017 is the US slowly and steadily pulling ahead of the Chinese on just about any industry that requires large processing power.
When you combine this with all the other crap going on inside China you get a general picture of malaise that doesn’t indicate China getting ahead of the US at least not without the US actively aiding China and that’s not happening any more for obvious reasons.
Furthermore don’t expect China to pull out of the current economic downturn inside China quickly. China requires a complete overhaul of its economic system and that’s unlikely to happen until things utterly break inside China and the CCP has no other choice.
mindpuzzle81
June 17, 2023 at 1:33 pm
@weinam chia Snort! No matter what happens I’m certain that the right course of action is economic decoupling from China. Xi is not trustworthy and will use any opportunity to stab the US in the back. Better to be done with that devil now that we exactly what he is.
Richard Tong
June 17, 2023 at 1:51 pm
@mindpuzzle81 You are simply regurgitating the far-right Sinophobic false narratives. Good parrot. 😁
brandon kim
June 17, 2023 at 4:31 pm
the gpu is MADE IN CHINA
mindpuzzle81
June 17, 2023 at 4:41 pm
@brandon kim no the fabs for all advanced processors are outside of China. China largely has low end processor fabs in the sub 24 micron area and even then it requires imports of US technology to function. The advanced processors have an almost 80 percent US IP rate in both the chips themselves as well as the machinery that makes the Chips. Sure ASML is Dutch but the R&D is all US, same with alot of Japanese and Korean machinery companies.
So no the chips are not being made in China for advanced processes which includes AI and many other fields.
Jack Smith
June 17, 2023 at 4:44 pm
@mindpuzzle81 china is already making them and now it’s been announced that chips act is being amended dummy
The more u stop anyone. The more they create their own
Again
China 0 wars
USA constant wars
We all know USA is threatened that China progressed
Jenny Lee
June 16, 2023 at 4:50 pm
Stop saying China is copying US or stealing US IP. US does all this plus so much more unscrupulous things! Look in the mirror first before accusing & criticizing others. There are so many things that China has that US doesn’t even have yet. China has 1.4 billion population & have capable human beings that can invent & be innovative just as much as the U.S. & the west. For thousandths of years, China has invented major things that contributed to the good of the world & where the west has copied or copied stolen intellectual inventions or innovations that were unique from China only. US was not even a thought on this planet then. US is built on innovations by the immigrants, many students, scientists are of Chinese descent. The world can work together if U.S. stops being so hegemonic & so arrogant!
Jag Singh
June 16, 2023 at 5:25 pm
All these hi-tech were largely available in West but never shared openly with developing countries and people-in-need. Now with China in the lead, such technologies and collaborations help world towards a shared and prosperous future.
weinam chia
June 16, 2023 at 8:55 pm
US does not spy on others. They do not do so at all. Never!
Paul danne Lachica
June 16, 2023 at 9:26 pm
A.I systems and tools has a god like potential in science and technology productivity innovation. But depends on how good is the date
DavonGrahamTV
June 16, 2023 at 10:44 pm
China has literally no a.i that is worth noting. These experts don’t understand China labels average tech as ai…. How can you market yourself as an expert and not see that all of their flagships are either stolen or cobbled together. Nothing worth stealing from. China nor worth paying attention to. The only thing they do is clone and copy and they make cheap things. Unfortunately that also means the tech they make is often unreliable or sets on fire. Take your pick.
Jim King
June 16, 2023 at 11:29 pm
This video is hilariously false.
Kshoo
June 17, 2023 at 12:12 am
No, it’s actually not. Look at the U.S. education system. We have barely changed curriculum since the 80s. And yet China, Japan, Singapore, Germany, and many other top educational countries have computer science and coding as CORE curriculum, taught to every child. They are so far ahead of us in this way that we will absolutely feel the gap in our technological abilities in the next decade alone. They emphasize STEM over all else while the U.S. has only plummeted in the last 5 years alone in educational milestones. Look at the states, high schoolers are at 7th grade math and reading levels now. Our kids can barely keep attention for 2 straight minutes. How do you think that will translate on the global stage in just 5 years alone? We are so. Far. Behind.
Jim King
June 17, 2023 at 12:24 am
@Kshoo – Your several great points do not negate my claim. Have you seen all the videos about how China cheats on everything? Bicycles piled as high as mountains? Electric vehicles parked, covering thousands of acres that don’t even operate? CCP operatives ‘painting’ farmland and everywhere else imaginable the color ‘green’. Installing fake wheat and corn, etc. They are nothing but ‘paper tigers’, as phony as a $3 bill. (But, you did make some good points.) …By the way, are you CCP?
xinyiquan666
June 18, 2023 at 4:05 pm
Why China has an edge on artificial intelligence
Harvard University
gazette › story › 2023/03
Mar 16, 2023 — Yang’s research shows China exporting huge amounts of AI technology, dwarfing its contributions in other frontier technology sectors. Yang also …
Jack Smith
June 18, 2023 at 4:29 pm
@Jim King source plz ? I am waiting for u to show proof .
Electric vehicles parked ? So in usa do ur vehicles dance on ur head or something ?
Thousands of acres ? Location ? Name ? Number of vehicles I am waiting .
Farmland ? China is food self sufficient.
Fake wheat and corn ? Source
Btw are u CIA?
Jim King
June 18, 2023 at 9:23 pm
@xinyiquan666 – I’ll ask you the same: Are you CCP?
Kshoo
June 17, 2023 at 12:07 am
No shit. They’re ahead of us in curriculum. They actually teach comp sci as core curriculum, meanwhile the US has barely adapted core curriculum since the 80s. We are abysmal in every facet of education. This gap will only grow exponentially unless we seriously start to invest and care about our education system the way China, Singapore (especially) and many other countries do. They are too far ahead of us to reasonably expect for the US to lead in any tech industry in the next decade alone. This will also be clear as war evolves to tech and aerospace.
Joe Albert
June 18, 2023 at 2:16 pm
Why is US failing on educating people
will engel
June 17, 2023 at 1:21 am
China does not ban Micron chips. it is known Micron lobbied congress to take action against Chinese competitors. China advised companies not to use Micron chips in their infrastructure. a slap on the wrist.
Adam Taylor
June 17, 2023 at 7:24 am
lol China is not in the lead, they can barely feed themselves.
Urim Tefiki
June 17, 2023 at 7:57 am
Stealing a technology and stealing a child is a different thing. China has stolen from you the technology, but you have stolen from me my child (my invention) and tortured me. Torture and pressure is not helping the creativity only destroyes that, I am happy that you have helped me to destroy my ability to invent even more. Listen to my phone and make a pressure on my laptop, never again with my creativity never ever.
zionen01
June 17, 2023 at 5:17 pm
Why would China want US AI companies there if China is so far ahead.
xinyiquan666
June 18, 2023 at 4:32 pm
@Zelgie and you see the reference i gave above? so how they implement it if they do not have technology?
Zelgie
June 18, 2023 at 4:44 pm
@xinyiquan666 you post all this stuff but you cut off the most important part about their explanation. You just read headlines which are useless. Come back after you read it all.
Zelgie
June 18, 2023 at 4:47 pm
@xinyiquan666 Top 5 World’s Most Advanced AI Systems | 2023
GPT-3 (OpenAI) The first in our list is GPT-3 short for Generative Pre-trained Transformer 3 is the third series of generative language models developed by OpenAI. …
AlphaGo (Google DeepMind) …
Watson (IBM) …
Sophia (Hanson Robotics) …
Tesla Autopilot (Tesla Inc)
Zelgie
June 18, 2023 at 4:53 pm
@xinyiquan666 all of china’s top ai has to do with facial recognition and surveillance. China only leading in those 2 department . While China will catch up by 2035. The top 5 ai in the world are way ahead of china’s progress outside of those 2 category because private companies aren’t focusing on spying on citizens.
Zelgie
June 18, 2023 at 4:56 pm
@xinyiquan666 and to your questions of how do they implement it if they don’t have the technology. Facial recognition ai is different from deep thinking ai. Facial recognition is done by comparing points of facial features. While it is still ai, it needs far less processing power and way less programming compares to an ai that replicate deep thinking. You don’t understand this because you’re ignorant in this field.
Love75
June 17, 2023 at 6:27 pm
Lol. China is ahead of us in everything by years.
M gronich
June 17, 2023 at 6:32 pm
Rouland is just regurgitating propaganda. China steals our IP.. Didn’t he read ASPI’s report in feb 2023 that said that in research in 44 critical technologies for the 21century, China is ahead of the US in 37 of them? And are they actually ahead of us in AI? One thing he did say that made sense was in cyber offense and defense, the US is by far in the lead. After all China’s been buying Cisco routers/switches for decades.
Joe Albert
June 17, 2023 at 11:48 pm
China is lagging behind the US in AI technology but leading in quantum communications.
Jeremey
June 18, 2023 at 12:44 am
So what is AI exactly?
xinyiquan666
June 18, 2023 at 4:00 pm
stop NS, china is ahead of US in both AI and quantum commucation as wells as quantum compuation,
Jack Smith
June 18, 2023 at 4:26 pm
Actually china is ahead of us in quantum computing
Hung Nguyen
June 18, 2023 at 1:57 am
With one fifth of mankind in China, there are more super geniuses in that country than the West can imagine. They also have a political system that allows stability for long term planning including means to defend themselves. Thus, China is unstoppable. The majority of the world is with China and Russia now, that’s a fact. In this irreversible trend, the West needs to redo their thinking before being marginalized in an exponential way. It’s obvious in the eyes of the world, but it is not yet clear to people who still dwell in their wishful thinking.
Thomas Rogers
June 18, 2023 at 2:33 am
HERE WE GO AGAIN. THE CHINESE ARE STEALING NOT CHINA IS EDUCATING ITS POPULATION AND GRADUATES OVER 4 MILLION STEM A YEAR. MICRON IS INVESTING 600 MILLION IN CHINA. WE REFUSE TO INVEST IN THE EDUCATION OUR PEOPLE. OUR SADISTIC CAPITALISM HAVE AMERICAN IN LIFETIME STUDENT DEBT MEDICAL DEBT AND NO ONE CAN AFFORD RENT OR BUY A HOUSE. .CHINA IS THE WORLD’S LARGEST SEMICONDUCTOR MARKET. ALL WE DO IS PLAY THE VICTIM INSTEAD OF COMPETE.
Thomas Rogers
June 18, 2023 at 2:36 am
CHINA HAS 6 G AND LEADING IN 38 OUT OF 44 LEADING TECHNOLOGIES. THEY DID NOT GET THERE BY STEALING THEY FILE MORE PATENTS THAN ANY OTHER NATION. THEY CAN NOT STEAL WHAT WE DO NOT HAVE.
Thomas Rogers
June 18, 2023 at 2:37 am
EVEN IN U.S UNIVERSITIES ASIAN AMERICANS LEAD IN SCIENCE AND MATH. STOP INSULTING THIS PEOPLE AND LETS INVEST IN AMERICAN EDUCATION.
妈祖
June 18, 2023 at 6:44 am
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Joe alonzo
June 18, 2023 at 6:56 am
🏺The British, the PENTAGON provoked the Russians to a war in Ukrainian by killing 14 thousand Russian children, women, and older man in the DONBAS area. The Ukrainian people are been used by NATO, in a planned 10 years PROXY WAR AGAINST RUSSIA. Do the people of Taipei, TAIWAN know they are next to be used by USA-NATO IN a PLANNED PROXY WAR against CHINA? The PENTAGON.BIDEN is arming Taiwan to give their Government the allusion they can win a war against China. Think, In 2014 Obama&Biden through the PENTAGON & NATO started the Ukrainian war training 900 thousands military Ukrainians and put lot of weapons including biologic-weapons “labs” in Ukraine to be used to exterminate the Russian and their promising economy as the PENTAGON intended to do in China with the COVID19VIRUS, These Bio-weapons give the Ukrainian Government the allusion they could win a war against Russia, but, most if not all of that 900K are now dead. TAIWAN will suffer the same destiny their island will be destroyed, except, if they get rid of their corrupt senators and president, for Ukrainians is too late.🍽
Max Madison
June 18, 2023 at 2:12 pm
The same old RACIST anti Ch–>ina prop–>aganda….. “Ch–>ina is stealing our technology”.
When Ch–>ina is way ahead of USA in numbers of new high tech patents filed every year. It’s actually the US that is now trying to steal Ch–>ina’s technology.
And who files the most new patents in USA?….. the Ch–>inese Americans… by FAR. US high tech industry would collapse without those Ch–>inese and Asiian Ameriiiicans doing all the research.
Joe Albert
June 18, 2023 at 2:22 pm
Let’s not be fooled about how AI will be used!