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MOUNTAINS of Dead EV Batteries Are Coming: Here’s How We Plan To Deal With It
The future of old EV batteries is very different from that of old combustion engines. In a smarter world we’ll tackle a sea of old batteries with the four Rs: Reuse, repurposing, recycling and reduction. Subscribe to CNET: Like us on Facebook: Follow us on Twitter: Follow us on Instagram: Follow us on TikTok: Intro…
exileinrosedale
May 21, 2022 at 12:52 pm
Excellent!!! Thank you so very much’
Kurt N
May 21, 2022 at 12:52 pm
What about the child labor in africa! You forgot to thank them
Kurt N
May 21, 2022 at 12:58 pm
Nope not buying this utopian view
MrBigBoy4Life
May 21, 2022 at 3:21 pm
Ok caveman.
Robert Montgomery
May 21, 2022 at 1:01 pm
Currently no commercial recycling of lithium batteries. Lithium batteries are known as blood batteries given the environmental and human cost
Seascape Feedback
May 21, 2022 at 1:03 pm
Tesla’s are built with at least 90% or more of their entire cars, Battery included, are recyclable. A former Tesla employee, actually owns a recycle company for the parts too.
Smarter Than You
May 21, 2022 at 1:22 pm
Just like every other ev battery
Sir Dan Dandy
May 21, 2022 at 1:07 pm
Electric cars a stupid idea because they are pointless, because we already have the internal combustion engine.Its a complete waste of time and expence.
MrBigBoy4Life
May 21, 2022 at 3:25 pm
Agreed! I’m all for the continuing use of ICE vehicles and fossil fuels. Let just throw this stupid idea of technological advancements and diversification of energy sources out of the window. I kinda like always worrying about the cost of fuel every time there’s disruptions in Russia or the Middle East. Status quo!
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May 21, 2022 at 3:42 pm
@MrBigBoy4Life .Why you bring Status Quo into this , they ate the best rock band in the world?Oh yes, they are better than ABBA.
I am pleased you agree with me about cars.
MrBigBoy4Life
May 21, 2022 at 5:10 pm
@Sir Dan Dandy lol 😂
Nixa Eagle
May 21, 2022 at 5:47 pm
States like Calif , TX can’t keep the lights on .. but let’s charge millions of cars 🤦🏽♀️
Mike Shafer
May 21, 2022 at 1:18 pm
Cooley do you secretly hate EVs? So many of these videos are bearish. I own a Tesla, and not all EV drivers are excited about EVs just because we want a cleaner world. EVs are _objectively_ a better driving experience. And just like how internal combustion improved significantly over the past 100 years, EV batteries will improve as well. Longer range, easier recycling, faster charging cycles, and cheaper.
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Little Munchkin Cat
May 21, 2022 at 2:09 pm
I’ll never own one 😉🤣
John Henshaw
May 21, 2022 at 2:48 pm
I don’t want one👎🏻
Little Munchkin Cat
May 21, 2022 at 2:53 pm
@John Henshaw they tried doing this 10 years ago or so and it didn’t work out for a lot of reasons. Mainly the cost of the battery because they said the price will come down and it hasn’t yet.
Larry Meyer
May 21, 2022 at 2:10 pm
I absolutely agree to bring large number of shorter range electric cars to market, cheaper and fit for purpose. When you do longer trips, simply rent a car. Less investment in something you really don’t need. Most people don’t do more than 100km a day. And the impact on range with a lighter car is significant for that shorter commute.
Denese Dugay
May 21, 2022 at 2:44 pm
That won’t work for us disabled drivers who need modifications. But I can see it working for someone like my husband who really only drives back and forth to work every day. When we do longer trips, we can just use my vehicle.
Mario Dalla Riva
May 21, 2022 at 3:01 pm
Thanks, Brian! You rock.
David S
May 21, 2022 at 3:02 pm
Mazda’s late to EV but reportedly offers 10d/year free use of gas-powered (ICE) car for their EV car owners… free or not, seems a prudent model for affordable (low range) EV sales.
TJ Kleckner
May 21, 2022 at 3:18 pm
better expand the cobalt and lithium mines! Heart the recycling companies.
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May 21, 2022 at 3:19 pm
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Na
May 21, 2022 at 3:28 pm
Still not convinced about buying an electric car
I drive a lot and there is not a single EV that meet my needs
And I think I have to keep my gas car/trucks for ever
Barry W
May 21, 2022 at 3:48 pm
Why don’t you talk about all the cobalt needed for oil refining? How about all the damage done by oil extraction, oil refining and oil burning? Conveniently forgotten about all that? Try reusing a gallon of diesel?
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Sid J
May 21, 2022 at 4:33 pm
This might be one of the most honest conversations around EV on YouTube
OiDirk
May 21, 2022 at 5:04 pm
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ShanGamer
May 21, 2022 at 5:14 pm
Most people dont have money for these
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May 21, 2022 at 6:06 pm
I think more people would be comfortable with hybrids gas & electric allowing them to reduce their gas prices but also giving them the range and benefits of gas
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jctai100
May 21, 2022 at 6:20 pm
Thank you for bringing light to this looming situation. It’s good we talk about this now vs when the problem becomes unwieldy. What we NEED is STANDARDS for size and configuration of batteries. What I worry about for reuse is if there is too much variability in shape/size, manufacturer for other electrical devices won’t go for adopting designs to accommodate used batteries. Tesla and the other EV companies need to work TOGETHER!
TRY to HELP you
May 21, 2022 at 7:54 pm
Not bad. Not one mention about it relative to the counterpart tho, the gas car. The “tonnage” of what was once in the ground stuff now in our atmosphere. Relative to what we are doing now EVs are far better for the environment long term…. With regards to humans wanting to keep living on it that is.
lplt
May 21, 2022 at 10:19 pm
“unbiased”
Adrian Mc
May 21, 2022 at 11:28 pm
Great piece.
Danner Banks
May 22, 2022 at 12:13 am
You will never convince people to get a smaller range battery unless it is quick and easy to recharge on a trip.
Monte VanNortwick
May 22, 2022 at 1:34 am
How much energy will be required to recycle the old battery? More than the creation of the original battery? Will that energy be green? We have seen war and what it does to supply chains. How will that impact global flow of rare materials?
LoveStallion
May 22, 2022 at 2:04 am
Long live Cooley. He’s outlasted so many others at CNET, and I’ve loved his presentation style for years.
(Fun personal fact: He once published a video that had a pretty bad typo in it. This was before social media, even. So I found his work email online and dropped him a note. He responded promptly, CNET fixed the video, and it was cool to communicate with him just a tad before everyone could be tagged on Twitter.)
K-rex
May 22, 2022 at 2:45 am
same thing happened/is happening with plastics
xxnike629xx
May 22, 2022 at 2:49 am
You also have to remember that battery tech will get smaller with bigger capacities. So over time, companies wouldn’t need as much raw materials to make new ones.
Also, there’s solid state battery tech that is a lot more efficient and has larger capacity.
D4ilyD0se
May 22, 2022 at 12:26 pm
Is it? I didn’t know that was just around the corner. And that even if that was achieved, it wouldn’t have a more negative impact on the environment to achieve something so difficult… We’ll just assume it’ll get better with no consequences. I keep hearing about these solid state batteries that continue to show difficulties in real world applications.
David Giles
May 22, 2022 at 3:03 am
I am here to tell everyone, range anxiety is truly a non issue with new EVs. I typically only charge our EV6 GT Line AWD to 80%. That gives the 274 mile total capacity battery ~220 miles of range. For our us, that gives us enough “juice” to drive around town for a few days to a week without having to charge back up. After the first couple of weeks, I quit thinking about whether we’d have enough charge to do what we needed to do, and just drove it like a regular gas powered car. The transition has been so easy that I am convinced I will never go back to a gas car.
Miguel Vega
May 22, 2022 at 12:44 pm
But that’s Just around town. Not out of town and how fast you going on highways. Also have to find a spot to charge if you traveling which it’s not a whole lot of stations and you literally have to plan if you going out
osl77
May 22, 2022 at 3:29 am
Yeah cause the price of gas is not volatile either right! This guy BS!
Furry Donkey
May 22, 2022 at 3:58 am
No solar panel roofs …..
Wiseguy3hh
May 22, 2022 at 4:46 am
Cooley… I can’t tell if you’re actually this dumb or if you enjoy being a legacy auto shill. Pls take your 98-99% cleaner (lead free now…after 70+ years of kids breathing vaporized lead)… 25%ish tail pipe emission and suck on it. … Then enjoy the rest of your day in rooms filled with smokers. Don’t worry about second hand smoke, some doctors say it’s okay… 😜👍
Then explain the entire lifecycle (% recycled) of ICE vehicles including all of the trash from regular maintenance, oil spills, tail pipe emissions, etc. … So you can kinda appear balanced… Kinda…
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May 22, 2022 at 6:56 am
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May 22, 2022 at 10:44 am
No one like Cooley
Lez A
May 22, 2022 at 12:06 pm
Redwood Materials will be the biggest battery recycler in the works. And many more companies will spring up.
Kenz300 x
May 22, 2022 at 12:22 pm
EV adoption is accelerating every year. Exponential not linear. The only limiting factor is batteries.
The number of electric vehicles and types of vehicles and trucks is growing.
Many people are holding off buying a new car or scooter until the electric vehicle they want becomes available.
Electric vehicles are just better. No noise, no emissions, less fuel costs, less maintenance costs and amazing technology. Gasoline and diesel are OLD polluting technology. So last century. Electric cars, electric trucks, electric buses, electric trash haulers, electric snow blowers, electric lawn mowers, electric weed whackers, electric hedge trimmers, electric snow mobiles, electric water craft, electric garden tools, electric mechanic tools, electric motor cycles, electric bicycles, electric scooters, electric farm tractors, electric construction equipment, electric delivery vehicles, …… everything is going electric. No worries about starting after sitting for a few months. Gas always needs repairs. If you care about the future for your children care about climate change
D4ilyD0se
May 22, 2022 at 12:24 pm
Unfortunately, the people who aren’t watching this are the smug people you referred to. Can’t watch anything that doesn’t confirm your bias.
Kenz300 x
May 22, 2022 at 12:24 pm
Materials in batteries can all be recycled over and over again.
It is cheaper to reuse battery materials than it is to dig up new raw materials.
Rtfa Zeberdee
May 23, 2022 at 4:46 pm
I think JB Straubel has also said the recycled material is better performing than the original as the process cleans out more impurities
Cesar Trujillo
May 22, 2022 at 3:58 pm
I’ve always had such a big crush on Brian but mostly because he’s no nonsense and tells you how it is with just enough swagger to keep you interested in some deeper topics. I like this new Brian who is getting more interested in EVs.
I liked the EPA chart but I want a chart that focuses on smog. Goal 1; global climate change, goal 2; local climate clean up including atmosphere and consumables.
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Scott Casner
May 22, 2022 at 11:32 pm
What ever happened to graphene battery technology??
David Jackson
May 23, 2022 at 12:43 am
is MIND CONTROL a reality?
Nasher98
May 23, 2022 at 1:37 am
I’ve always thrown mine in the ocean
S R
May 23, 2022 at 4:45 am
Reduce is the way to go in my opinion. I bought a phev. 95% of my driving is electric. I have zero range anxiety for when I need to go on a road trip!
Harsha D
May 23, 2022 at 12:53 pm
@ 1:59 that reminds me of childhood Cartoon TV show “Captain Planet” of Re-use, recycle ♻️ and reduce various pollution
SaL87 Escobar
May 23, 2022 at 5:00 pm
Naw I seen a beer factory 🏭 releasing a lot of smoke day n night. Dumb video.
Old man
May 24, 2022 at 11:08 am
Does your mommy know you’re playing with her phone?
Gino Martinez
May 23, 2022 at 6:16 pm
I can get on board with everything but reduce. I need the range. I drive my family vacations and every other weekend to get away. I do not want to be limited to where I can go. And I cannot afford to have more than the three cars I have now. Also I have a 70 mile commute a day for work. How many charge cycles can a battery hold? These are my issues with electric cars.
Old man
May 24, 2022 at 10:49 am
Sounds like you want to eat all the cake, and have it too. Part of being environmentally responsible is cutting down on consumption. You are a very heavy consumer. Try living simply. You’ll probably find a reduction in stress and a longer life.
Faisal Rafique
May 24, 2022 at 3:50 am
Besides range anxiety, delivery times and dealership attitude is also an issue. It’s like going shop by shop looking for food during a famine.
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The Crusader
May 24, 2022 at 12:49 pm
Yeah no thanks I don’t care if gas is $10 a gallon I can afford it and I am not ever switching to EV
Frank Coffey
May 24, 2022 at 2:00 pm
Good luck getting those batteries back. Reuse will be rampant. There are a lot of folks who want them to make powerwalls, convert old cars, all kinds of projects. Need to work a deal with insurance companies get some of them to the recycling facility before they end up on e-bay.
M T
May 24, 2022 at 4:11 pm
No problem. Elon will shoot all those dead batteries into space
dave white
May 24, 2022 at 4:19 pm
Solar panels are gonna be the worst problem, they are tough to recycle and we are gonna see an environmental disaster with solar panels and EV batteries.
144Donn
May 24, 2022 at 5:05 pm
They are recycling our pooh, mining minerals and other goodies within. Basic a priori reasoning leads one to believe recycling of the valuable materials will be done in fact, old batteries are already used to power electrical grids.
innomind
May 24, 2022 at 5:55 pm
Humanity will eventually realize that roads are already infrastructure and there’s no need to haul thousands of pounds of batteries everywhere you drive. In the future the roads will have wireless electricity transmission built-in them. This way, each car will only need 50 miles capacity battery at most.
GlennC777
May 24, 2022 at 6:07 pm
The focus on tailpipe emissions here is a bit of a red herring: that problem is all but solved; more or less irrelevant these days. Greenhouse gasses are orders of magnitude more important, and most of the arguments against EVs are pretty thin. Sure some of them are now powered by coal, but it makes sense to shift to EVs in parallel with greening the grid, and that’s exactly what’s happening, globally and in the US, with some states, on some days, meeting 100% of their electrical needs through renewables already.
Reduce, re-use, recycle is an old principle, and these are exactly the types of problems a (well-regulated, so you don’t have things like dumping of toxic waste materials) free market is good at solving, I have no doubt it will do that with EV batteries as the need and therefore the potential rewards ramp up.
Personally I have my doubts about EVs, but they have little to do with any of this. I just think adoption is going to be much slower than people expect. Cars last a long time, and my bet is that say, twenty years from now, we’ll still have at least 70%+ combustion-engine vehicles on the road and at least 50%+ among new sales as well. Possibly still even much more than that.
Ian Weetman
May 24, 2022 at 8:12 pm
What most people really need is a 1-2 seat quadracycle like the Microlino or Renault Twizzy that rarely goes above 35 mph/50 km/h for 95% of their driving… And a highway capable 4-5 seater for weekly grocery runs and out of town trips… At least that’s what I’ve found when studying my own driving patterns. I only use 1 50-L tank of gasoline every two weeks generally speaking and that’s with a 12-year-old Toyota Matrix… But 95% of my trips are around town in bumper to bumper traffic. I really need a city/key car most of the time with the option to borrow/rent a full-sized car once a week… If most people are like me, what we should be doing is investing in more electric car-sharing clubs and buying small cheap urban runabouts with really low specs for our own personal whenever use…
Psylent Rage
May 24, 2022 at 10:55 pm
…and solar panels…
Brandon B
May 25, 2022 at 12:35 am
Water powered cars are the future!!
cattigereyes1
May 25, 2022 at 12:35 am
Facts, industry immersions add the minus of trees and biomass and you get mankind a virus destroying the earth without a care! When its toxic the human race will expire! Enjoy extinction! Lemmings!