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goJesusandStarcraft
August 14, 2020 at 9:08 pm
Apple invested millions, if not billions of dollars over the last decade building up their mobile platform. Apple is the one who worked to design, engineer, manufacture, market, and distribute the iPhones and iPads that come with iOS, iPadOS, and the App Store.
Epic games has no right to suddenly barge in and whine about how Apple is being unfair.
Apple did all the leg work building up its mobile platforms, and if epic games wants access to that audience, epic games should follow apple’s rules. Apple gets to determine the rules of their platform. If they don’t allow side-loading of apps, if they want a 30% cut from app developers, it’s Apple’s platform and apple’s rules.
Fallout legacy 67
August 14, 2020 at 9:21 pm
Imagine if instead of a lawsuit epic games just removed apples rights to use unreal engine for any application. Literally a third of all apps on the app store would have to be removed instantly. I think that would send apple a better message than some blanket term lawsuit.
Salad V
August 15, 2020 at 1:06 am
You say that like apple is in the wrong
Alejandro Cordero
August 14, 2020 at 9:25 pm
This is awesome.
Adam Hampton
August 14, 2020 at 9:34 pm
It costs money to keep the app stores on Microsoft, Apple, Google, and even Linux (places like Canonical Ubuntu) to keep the code clean, and to make sure the software in the stores are following the company policies they set forth. Then add on top of that the cost to manage and maintain the servers to host for the users to be able to access the resources. This doesn’t come free, and shouldn’t be expected to be free. Epic isn’t charged to put a free product in the store, which meant they could circumvent the 30% cut for a free product. But then with the back-end money grab they were doing for the in-store purchases, that was the only opportunity Apple had to receive anything to even pay to keep it in the app store. And yet after millions if not billions of downloads of this Fortnite app from the app store, this is the little opportunities Apple has to make sure the code is kept clean and not going to break the system or other apps, as well as following policy, and paying to keep the servers running. I remember the old days of Android, before there was any enforcement of the app store. And it was a wild west, where the average consumer would be full of bugs, and have to resort to antivirus programs and cleaners to just to mitigate some of this stuff… yet those programs themselves were money grabs and their own malware/trojans.
Even Steam and Epic have their own app stores following their own policies and guidelines. So it’s funny how Tim Sweeney is whining about the store policy and the money they have to pay. But do they allow their developers that are in their app store exist for free, or do they themselves take a cut from those developers and publishing companies? I would imagine so.
Matthew Young
August 14, 2020 at 9:36 pm
This is insane. Apple and Google get developers apps in front of people and they should be compensated for it. They built the system, they maintain the system, they make the rules. Don’t like it? Tough. And the hosts argument about YouTube is honestly laughable. Sure, Apple can’t control YouTube, but Google can and Google (for better or worse) does enforce platform guidelines. Apple does the same on the App Store because it’s an Apple platform. So no, Apples argument isn’t shaky. We might disagree and think it’s dumb, but shaky isn’t the word to describe it.
Sean Gray
August 14, 2020 at 9:44 pm
if epic doesn’t like paying companies money that have built a user base that they can use (a user base that would not exist without apple or google) they can make their own mobile platform and see how that works out for them. If they don’t want to make their own mobile platform then why should they expect to be allowed to use a platform for free? for example google takes a 45% cut of add revenue on YouTube no one complains that isn’t fair.
Hazin Shereef
August 14, 2020 at 9:47 pm
Use Midasbuy
game21 sk
August 14, 2020 at 10:10 pm
Just download NVIDIA GeForce now on Google play that’s all
lau teck
August 14, 2020 at 10:15 pm
Just join huawei app.. If they doesn’t want you fortnight… Easy
Eskimopride07
August 14, 2020 at 10:18 pm
They agreed to the 30% cut from Apple & Google when they uploaded their App onto the App Store/Play Store. There’s no lawsuit 🤦🏽♂️
Paolo Sbalchiero
August 14, 2020 at 11:01 pm
You wanna reach our share of cuatomers? You wanna offer your product on ios devices? Pay the share. It’s that easy
Adri& NukeX
August 14, 2020 at 11:07 pm
I support fortnite a million times, but the title makes me laugh, Fortnite declares war on Apple, Like if it was a war of world. Equally good video. Like
TITO SAMUEL CEDEÑO BARREIRO
August 14, 2020 at 11:13 pm
I am a IPad player 🙁
Anna - Let's Get Acquainted
August 14, 2020 at 11:13 pm
1:33 neat
Roger Sim
August 14, 2020 at 11:16 pm
Unless all the big game developers follow suit, I don’t see how epic’s going to win this.
Brian
August 14, 2020 at 11:16 pm
Down with Apple. Long live Epic! Apple has open contempt for their customers and developers. They own your device and you. Apple is the patriarchy and they’re fascist.
Apple cultists in the comments are maaaaaaad. Literally Stockholm Syndrome.
Salad V
August 15, 2020 at 1:05 am
Whatever you think about apple doesn’t matter, in this specific situation, epic is in the wrong, you are talking about a completely different topic
That Small Guy
August 14, 2020 at 11:19 pm
This does put a smile on my face
David Ramirez
August 14, 2020 at 11:23 pm
I hope this kills fortnite for good
IsolestiK
August 14, 2020 at 11:27 pm
good fortnite is a boring garbage game, and epic? lol epic store.
Lööps?
August 14, 2020 at 11:49 pm
I would like to see iOS open up a bit more and allowing apps to be sideloaded. Against Google I see no point. You still can get the Apk and run the game that way.
MrAlkaline
August 14, 2020 at 11:54 pm
Right now for android users, you can still play! Just download the apk version!
yass123
August 15, 2020 at 12:28 am
Those eyes though 😍
J P
August 15, 2020 at 12:38 am
Apple did the right thing
Calvin Walker
August 15, 2020 at 12:47 am
What’s funny is Epic games refuses to let anyone sell in app purchases in their store and they’ve been criticized for it. They don’t care about monopoly but rather just being greedy and want a bigger piece of the pie. Of course why wouldn’t they. They’re a business.
baleczelorg
August 15, 2020 at 1:02 am
Fortnite just did a bad thing
Soljer Blue
August 15, 2020 at 3:23 pm
Apple/Google : We want our protection money.
Roblox Gaming
August 15, 2020 at 3:40 pm
We hate Fortnite now
Moose
August 15, 2020 at 3:50 pm
They waited till the hearing of the big bois and wanted to prove a point that they do monopolise the market. What an EPIC sniper they are.
Darwin Collao
August 15, 2020 at 3:52 pm
Let them fight apple is a bully
x_jr._.
August 15, 2020 at 4:30 pm
They should just slap ads on fortnite because it’s bent
Moore Granno
August 15, 2020 at 4:37 pm
So where does that bring fortnite mobile players.. back to CODM
XXKRISHAN 999
August 15, 2020 at 5:04 pm
Lol fortnites a dead game lol Apple could Buy Fortnite.
Errin
August 15, 2020 at 5:07 pm
Other apps use direct payments all the time like Amazon, Walmart, etc and they don’t get in trouble. Netflix etc as well.
OTG Nato
August 15, 2020 at 5:08 pm
Bro epic slapped Dem wit civil suits they really out her challenging apple and Google
Leonard Wong
August 15, 2020 at 5:41 pm
definitely anti competitive. Lower the revenue.
Chris Lee
August 15, 2020 at 6:09 pm
Get epic to create its own phone, tablets, app ecosystem if it doesn’t work to pay for using apple Google platforms.
Simone P
August 15, 2020 at 6:37 pm
I hope apple will go all the way down
Mayur Beldar
August 15, 2020 at 8:14 pm
Apple takes 40% my dear
Bluetiger25
August 15, 2020 at 8:56 pm
I used to be an Apply fanboy (multiple iphone, ipad, macbook) but moved away the past few years because of shady things like this. I’m disappointed in the way they have done business the past few years, they are the new IBM. What is annoying is that they portray themselves as the angel in the industry. Owning a marketplace and having competing products in the marketplace (Owning App store but also Apple Music competing against Spotify, Apple Game vs. Epic) is too tempting for most business not to abuse eventually and leading to monopolistic behaviors . This remind me of Microsoft behavior during their Anti-trust case. I hope they(Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Google) all get pressured to play by more fair rules.
Abu Luddy
August 15, 2020 at 9:18 pm
Apple should buy Epic
Himsara Gallege
August 15, 2020 at 9:50 pm
The battle of the Tims
X Raj Richard
August 15, 2020 at 10:05 pm
Epic indeed want special treatment by paying less than other apps. 😁😁😁
Wil Smith
August 15, 2020 at 10:14 pm
That game has been on it’s way out for a long time now. Ive noticed around early 2019 the game has been in serious decline in popularity. This is for the best.
Keegan Whittal
August 15, 2020 at 10:21 pm
How can Epic argue that Apple has a monopoly and then turn round and say that Google also has a monopoly? At best they can convince a judge to see a duopoly but duopolies aren’t illegal 🤷♂️
S Marks
August 15, 2020 at 10:40 pm
Apple and google will probably join forces against this. Btw 2020 has been a crazy year
fgfgfgf drtduud
August 15, 2020 at 10:52 pm
As a developer I’m fully behind Tim on this. Apple is behaving like a feudal lord putting a chain over a river and charging boats. On PC you can publish FOR FREE. It’s anti-competitive behavior on part of apple. They gatekeep the platform.
fgfgfgf drtduud
August 15, 2020 at 10:53 pm
Explained but you don’t actually understand it in the first place.
Adam Howley
August 15, 2020 at 11:51 pm
Just waiting for Apple or Google to just buy them…
Or Yagoda
August 16, 2020 at 12:15 am
The audio quality is bad.
Rego H
August 16, 2020 at 12:15 am
God, my ear is hurting….
kntwing.23
August 16, 2020 at 6:22 am
I play the game but didn’t likes it..
GAMERZEROZ1
August 16, 2020 at 8:02 am
I’m guessing they’re going to have to start talking about Epic games tencent connection.
Ammar Ahmad
August 16, 2020 at 10:49 am
Hey Epic games give back dx9 support then!
Suit Guy
August 16, 2020 at 11:45 am
If monopolized companies deliberately defy policy rules in order to spark controversy that should be seen as pathetic. Very, very, pathetic.
Limitless Music Vibes
August 16, 2020 at 12:57 pm
NO ONE CARES
Resul Pektas
August 16, 2020 at 2:07 pm
lol which country are gonna be involved in this *?*
InvestorPatricia
August 16, 2020 at 2:21 pm
Distraction. This is why they are doing this right now. No doubt — both parties are on the same side – getting paid by the Deep State to mesmerize the public and keep the attention off of the important busts on the arrests (human trafficking, pedophiles, CORRUPTION to nth degree).
Hyperx1
August 16, 2020 at 2:30 pm
Team apple
Swerving Lemon
August 16, 2020 at 2:57 pm
Apples entire culture has been geared towards creating a walled garden, a captive market, from it’s very inception.
Between their extortionary fees and their fight against right to repair, this sort of rebellion has been a long time coming.
I wish I could say that I could see this going well for the developers, but Apple has also demonstrated that they’re not above bribery via lobbyist and will fight to keep their insane cut of the gaming revenue.
Clinton Andrews
August 16, 2020 at 3:45 pm
I think they should let Apple and google take the 30% and shut up. They want to use their app stores to get their product to the people, that should come at a cost. Imagine an uber driver suing uber because they don’t want uber to take 25% of the fares, that’s ridiculous.
Sam Chiu
August 16, 2020 at 4:24 pm
Epic is not getting my credit card info.
Anthony Crowe
August 16, 2020 at 4:53 pm
I’m glad. I hate that dumb game.
R H
August 16, 2020 at 5:52 pm
Apple reaction on xcloud is unbelievable.
metal garurumon
August 16, 2020 at 6:32 pm
30% is too big
Steve
August 16, 2020 at 6:54 pm
Wow, she has nice eyes!
NaderQ
August 16, 2020 at 7:11 pm
Epic Games: Worth ~ $18Billion
Apple: Worth ~ $1Trillion
Google: Net Worth ~ $800Billion
Epic Games sues Google & Apple: We will destroy ’em with our 10yo army
Apple & Google: Epic-what?
lamebubblesflysohigh
August 16, 2020 at 7:31 pm
Epstein’s island haven’t seen any Tim on Tim action for quite some time.
Ray Johnson
August 16, 2020 at 9:44 pm
Pubg mobile is about to see a huge increase from Apple users..
Ray Johnson
August 16, 2020 at 9:46 pm
Wow and Android lol.. big opportunity for pubg in the battle Royale circuit
Damali Brown
August 16, 2020 at 10:18 pm
I hate apple Google life
Katya
August 16, 2020 at 11:47 pm
It’s more of extortion attempt than rather a “stand” though , which is why they can’t presented as anything but greed from Epic’s side .
I’d side with Microsoft about the xCloud , but Epic Games purposely violating the terms of their contracts just do they can cry wolf after is some bs crap move and deserve Apple and Google to crash them for that.
Robert Lyttle
August 16, 2020 at 11:57 pm
Pay up nothing is free; Apple and Goole spent billions of dollars developing their platform if you don’t want to pay to create your platform.
aleksey _
August 17, 2020 at 12:03 am
Whole video sounds like a paid ad by epic games.
The Bob
August 17, 2020 at 12:14 am
This is SUPER BIG. If epic wins, Apple may be forced to allow app sideloading, something they’ve tried their best to avoid since the beginning of iOS.
Justin Chenier
August 17, 2020 at 12:35 am
Your voice is too high