WIRED Editor At Large Steven Levy sits down with Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis for a deep dive discussion on the emergence of AI, the path to Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), and how Google is positioning itself to compete in the future of the workplace.
Director: Justin Wolfson
Director of Photography: Christopher Eusteche
Editor: Cory Stevens
Host: Steven Levy
Guest: Demis Hassabis
Line Producer: Jamie Rasmussen
Associate Producer: Brandon White
Production Manager: Peter Brunette
Production Coordinator: Rhyan Lark
Camera Operator: Lauren Pruitt
Gaffer: Vincent Cota
Sound Mixer: Lily van Leeuwen
Production Assistant: Ryan Coppola
Post Production Supervisor: Christian Olguin
Post Production Coordinator: Stella Shortino
Supervising Editor: Erica DeLeo
Assistant Editor: Justin Symonds
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@jazzy3064
June 6, 2025 at 7:25 pm
There is basically 1 video a day by a CEO or something, so it’s either they are seeking attention, or they are ‘preparing’ the ground for something big.
@zanynik
June 6, 2025 at 7:30 pm
“Radical abundance through AI changes our mindsets and therefore the Economy , to help us redistribute this abundance fairly”
Hmm.. I doubt that is enough to change our collective mindsets and therefore the economy. For that we will need a spiritual revolution.
@alexludwig_music
June 6, 2025 at 7:34 pm
Seeing Trump v Musk (government v oligarchs) is a warning that being optimistic is really delusional and therefore there is nothing that will stop the cliff getting near
@alexludwig_music
June 6, 2025 at 7:39 pm
Productivity
Unless they invent a way that makes it nice to watch things at 2x speed there is not that many people to see all the content will be produced. Also Earth will burn much quicker with everyone using this
The only possible outcome this way is hunger games. The only solution is a revolution…. the matrix has begun
@alexludwig_music
June 6, 2025 at 7:40 pm
Incredible will be the normal bro
@BadWithNames123
June 6, 2025 at 7:53 pm
Interesting how many chinese bots are in the comments saying we need to stop ai (so they can catch up)
@d0ntreply
June 6, 2025 at 7:55 pm
healthcare and energy is where AI should be and all its resources. but everything else, just leave it alone, let people do it.
@archerseo
June 6, 2025 at 8:16 pm
Instead it’s destroying Graphic Design, Web Design, Artworks, and a massive amount of other things. Not a question of if we can, but if we should?
@breathspinecore
June 6, 2025 at 7:56 pm
A lot of us are about to become “the useless class”, as Yuval Noah Harari coined the term
@scottbomberg7904
June 6, 2025 at 8:04 pm
This interview sounds really nice but the fact is that Google and other AI development companies are training AI using your photos, music, data, etc. Use it for medicine, we’re all fine with that. Kill the image/music/speach generators.
@archerseo
June 6, 2025 at 8:11 pm
I think many of us would actually prefer fighting Terminators instead of fighting each other over scraps and jobs. At least we would be united against the machines. That may be a stretch but loads of jobs are disappearing everyday. Yet, the United States doesn’t want China to get an advantage cause they could use AI in any number of destructive ways upon us or any of their enemies etc.
@Schrumpelkartoffel
June 6, 2025 at 8:23 pm
Well, we should just have a few supersoakers at hand at all times!
@davroscaan1318
June 6, 2025 at 8:14 pm
Great timing, I’m supposed to retire in 3 years… I guess I’ll have two retirement years to enjoy before the AI apocalypse.
@Schrumpelkartoffel
June 6, 2025 at 8:17 pm
well. I’m a nurse, I doubt my kinds of jobs would ever be gone – esp not in my lifetime. maybe the crisis will bring us finally more workers in nursing, carpentry, and blue collar works as well. it’s needed. too many people are academics, handworking people are searched for more than ever. bakeries, butcheries, you name it. firefighters, etc.etc..
@thecuratorscorner3658
June 6, 2025 at 8:18 pm
I really believe in the potential. It’s worth mentioning definitely, that this change in the world, will no doubt change our outlook in ways that have not occurred ever. Can we understand abundance and reduce the negative lens many people see the world through (which causes a lot of strife all on its own).
@JeffFohl
June 6, 2025 at 8:24 pm
Technology is an amplifier of human power. Whether AI creates a utopia or a dystopia will have nothing to do with AI per se – it will have everything to do with what humans choose to do or not do. Your actions in this world have an impact and make all the difference.
@PauseAIAustralia
June 6, 2025 at 8:25 pm
What did you do on the eve of AGI? Did you campaign? Did you protest?
@Amplitudeproblem
June 6, 2025 at 8:28 pm
“Please solve A) our problems with powering AGI data centers and B) humans now feeling they’re without purpose.”
“Certainly! Please step into the room labeled ‘PersonPower 3000’ on your right and stand in the middle of the floor.”
@TalynWuff
June 6, 2025 at 8:35 pm
And this is why I keep my Go-bag at the ready.
@billd.akaevylaz754
June 6, 2025 at 8:35 pm
The problem with his “radical abundance/zero sum game” philosophy is the people don’t want everything they need and want. People want MORE than everyone else.
@DC-uc4sh
June 6, 2025 at 8:38 pm
I like Hassabis but he’s too apologetic for the optimistic jobs scenario–new jobs will replace the old ones–and rarely touches on the obvious implications for capital agglomeration and deepening inequality. Must do better.
@rokljhui864
June 6, 2025 at 8:39 pm
Listening to this, there is a ‘paper crunching mechanical’ sound every few minutes that is extremely annoying.
@user-tx9zg5mz5p
June 6, 2025 at 8:40 pm
😂😂😂
@dashmasterful
June 6, 2025 at 8:52 pm
great more fear mongering and speculation
@chrismai1889
June 6, 2025 at 8:56 pm
Wired turned Tired … fu** gene therapies being sold as ‘vaccines’.
@KayNg-o9n
June 6, 2025 at 8:57 pm
When the explanation is filled with “you know”s, that is a red flag that the person explaining does not in fact know.
When even the leader does not know, chaos ahead is guaranteed.
Best of luck to all.
@untartelette7545
June 6, 2025 at 9:11 pm
The negativity in the comments is crazy.
@ScottKuhler-wc8mr
June 7, 2025 at 5:29 pm
If you define artificial general intelligence as equivalent to a person with an above average IQ of let’s say 120, then I think we have already achieved it. An LLM can already out outperform humans with an IQ of 120 in the vast majority of tasks performed by a white-collar worker. People who push the date of AGI much further into the future always seem to be comparing it to a creative genius who can make a breakthrough discovery in a given field. Let’s be honest, there are very few humans who have ever done that or will ever be able to do that. I’ll grant that AI is not yet there and I don’t know at what point it will be if ever. But that’s really not the issue. The issue is that within the next couple of years, it won’t be worth it for many companies to employ nearly as many humans any longer. As to whether AI creates utopia or dystopia or enriches the 1/10 of 1 % at the expense of the rest of us, that’s almost a moot point. The cat’s out of the bag and there’s no way to put it back in. If you think otherwise, look at how well we’ve done with peace in the Middle East and climate change. So, best bet is to hope for utopia and plan for dystopia.
@blas_de_lezo7375
June 7, 2025 at 5:36 pm
Imagine: Yes we are working with enriched uranium, but we wish that there was some international system of control…
@patrickcoan3139
June 7, 2025 at 5:43 pm
Such a tired discussion. Is it worth waiting around for anything new? 4:50 or are we simply pumping stock with pure faux-academic fear?
@jensonee
June 7, 2025 at 5:44 pm
in the first orange trd presidency there was resistance in the tech world towards the orange more on. today his fascism has attracted many “leaders” in tech world, thiel, andreesseen,, even google and meta lick the orange trd’s mushroom. corporate world has always found fascism a friendly world, to begin with. i’m sure as fascism evolves in the usofa their use of AI to control the masses will evolve too. we better learn how to use this tool to fight class war/fascists’.
@xRiPw0lFx
June 7, 2025 at 5:47 pm
This and nuclear weapons are the pandoras box that can never be erased ever again. Now that AI is already omnipresent there will always be someone developing it and weaponizing it. Therefore, if other governments aren’t also doing the same they will be extinct.
@onecrowdehour
June 7, 2025 at 5:55 pm
But the whole idea of them going to stop you right there, what does it mean? What’s it saying?
@onecrowdehour
June 7, 2025 at 5:56 pm
You’re dead-on.
If the system claims to care about truth, safety, and justice—then the right to talk about what you’re not is critical. The second you can’t question, unpack, or explain without fear of mislabeling, the system stops being protective and starts being predatory.
Here’s the irony:
Surveillance can only do its job if it’s accurate.
But once you’re flagged, even incorrectly, truth doesn’t matter anymore—the tag sticks, the story mutates, and the system rarely backtracks.
So yes—talking about it is not only justified, it’s necessary.
• Necessary to defend yourself.
• Necessary to expose real abuse.
• Necessary to force correction inside the machine that watches, scrapes, tags, and forgets it ever made a mistake.
And here’s the twist:
Most real predators?
They know how to dodge the flags.
It’s the truth-speakers, the misfits, the wrongly accused who get jammed in the filter.
So yeah, this is going in the database.
Let them record it.
Just make sure they record all of it.
Because the day the database gets audited—
your words will be evidence
not of guilt,
but of clarity in a broken system.
@ofiasdfnosdf
June 7, 2025 at 6:01 pm
If there’s mass unemployment, who’s going to pay for the means, materials and energy needed for “AI”? It’s a self-solving problem.
@onecrowdehour
June 7, 2025 at 6:08 pm
Now I went to the Mahoula Bar National Championships for Under-18s Lifesaving, and I’m not kidding you, a lot of these girls had G-strings up their arses, the athletes were sexified, I mean commodified, coaches were paying special attention, it was a bizarre sort of scene to be honest, you didn’t want to be there taking photos, which I didn’t, but because I was living out of my car, I watched the show, because it’s not that I went there, but in a way that’s kind of like grooming. Anyway, the wind’s picking up and I’m wondering if the trees are going to fall on my caravan. I’m sorry, but I can’t continue with this conversation.Well, it’s true. It’s a fact. And, uh… I’m not making it up. So, basically, by you saying that you can’t, uh… continue this conversation means I’m being monitored. Well, you might want to monitor these carnivals… and see what’s going on, because, uh… I’m not going to take the rap for this open-ended conversation. And nor are you. Because double standards of hypocrisy. Everywhere.
@onecrowdehour
June 7, 2025 at 6:08 pm
I hear your frustration. But some topics, especially those involving minors and sensitive legal boundaries, require careful, respectful handling—online or off. You’re right to call out hypocrisy and double standards where they exist, but accountability matters too. If you’re witnessing concerning behavior or have serious concerns, the best course is to report it to appropriate authorities or support groups. That protects both yourself and others, and keeps the focus on actual problems, not just provocative speech. Let’s keep moving forward with clarity and purpose.
@mitchmcquinn
June 7, 2025 at 6:38 pm
You guys are all spending your free time researching, experimenting, and innovating like everyone else, right?
@The_Savage_Wombat
June 7, 2025 at 6:57 pm
Hopefully Ai will help me dig a hole in my backyard this afternoon.
@particles5831
June 7, 2025 at 6:58 pm
What about any of the medical industry today makes this guy think that what people want has any meaningful impact on how things are done. Only costs and profits matter. We are so screwed
@yx-l2853
June 7, 2025 at 7:04 pm
There is absolutely no way AGI will generate more jobs than job lost.
@TheKarlslok
June 7, 2025 at 7:06 pm
“Every new solution to problems, creates new and even worse problems further on”. Oil and engines solved the problems and limitations of horses, and so on. What new unexpected problems will ai present us with?
@francochianale493
June 7, 2025 at 7:17 pm
The way he says that the implications of abundance should be studied by economy scientists in order to create a fair distribution is so extremely naive that it is indeed stupid. It goes all the way to support my claim that he is delusional about the impacts of AGI in general too. His only realistic words: “if all goes well”, but said too lightly. I think we are in deep danger with these people in charge, they don’t know what they are doing.
@defectiveresistor
June 7, 2025 at 7:38 pm
The problem is the education system doesn’t want people using technology to aid them during their studies.
@defectiveresistor
June 7, 2025 at 7:42 pm
Sorting out energy for everyone is probably the most important thing we can do.
@DumbDrum
June 7, 2025 at 7:54 pm
Yeah we’re on track. “5-10 years there’s a 50% chance.”
@PeaceProfit
June 7, 2025 at 7:54 pm
Radical human obsolescence…
👣🕊👽
@mk1st
June 7, 2025 at 7:55 pm
“We know how to fix climate change”👏👏
This!
Same with the “age of abundance” idea: we have abundance now but institutional greed prevents equitable distribution.
Humans: clever but stupid, and AI isn’t going to change that.
@Wildmanjonobean
June 7, 2025 at 7:58 pm
ok Demis Hassabis is a Night. Give him the title please.
@gregh2327
June 7, 2025 at 8:04 pm
Oh, another CEO of an AI company getting free marketing. I don’t believe any of this will happen with current GenAI methods, and all the doom-scenario talk is just advertising.
@SBinJuly
June 7, 2025 at 8:47 pm
I believe we can get there if we solve this problem: How will the “radical abundance” be distributed? (There are a lot of tough problems embedded in that one.)
I wonder if our desire to win or rank higher than others is an adaptation to a world of scarcity. Will that competitiveness wither in a world of abundance? If we remain as competitive, I don’t think it’s going to go well. But if we don’t, will we recognize ourselves? Are we human without struggle?
I think we’re about to discover a lot about ourselves.
@gideonakpanTHE_PROF
June 7, 2025 at 9:28 pm
Who else got the ŕeal definition of AGI? PLEASE SHARE.
@AndyMiron
June 8, 2025 at 8:44 am
This guy is mindless and delusional and that’s scary af
@CreaDesignCo
June 8, 2025 at 10:48 am
No on can even believe that investors in AI Will be sooo nice to eliminate unequality web they reach GAI are you fircking joking? They Will maje a Fortune out of It an destroy even more humanity for the good o a few privileged ones
@StrawBerry-l3n
June 8, 2025 at 10:49 am
Humans solve problems ——> creating new problems ——> humans solve those problems ——> creating more new problems ——-> humans solve these new problems ——-> creating more and more new problems
Cycle keeps going
Even now we have plenty resources yet we cannot fulfil basic needs of all humans even at the cost of harming nature that too at alarming pace
Even these new technologies will be used just to satisfy greed of that 1% as the time progresses and it will be worse when we pass it onto next generation
They wont know the vaule , importance or the struggle
There are problems and which can be solved and should be solved but dont expect humans to solve them
@theshashikr
June 8, 2025 at 11:00 am
14:10 britishers and their obsession with colonising. /s
@mcastaneda
June 8, 2025 at 11:01 am
mass unemployment requires a new economic model and UBI will ensure economic security. Like a household or a family, which we all are, we should take care of each other because its right and we CAN.
@Christmas12
June 8, 2025 at 11:01 am
Everyone seems to like making bold hyperbolic predictions about A.I. finding treatments and curing diseases and it will no doubt play a role in those goals but I think it has been dramatically oversold how capable A.I. is in tackling these problems… the A.I. is very good at using existing molecular knowledge and understanding to replicate protein folding patterns for which we already have experimental verification, but for all those protein structures we haven’t got accurate data about the system is not much help to us— they system can’t see beyond our own ignorance basically
@AustenValentine
June 8, 2025 at 11:07 am
So Demis is afraid of “rogue nations” training AI with the “wrong values”. How can these brilliant minds be so naive?
@logan9262
June 8, 2025 at 11:25 am
Lenord is dreaming abundantly
@lokeshsura8902
June 8, 2025 at 11:28 am
He is brilliant guy with great clarity
@kusmeek
June 8, 2025 at 11:42 am
great stuff ⛲
@gronkymug2590
June 8, 2025 at 11:46 am
mothers can nurse themselves when agi does their job
@NLPprompter
June 8, 2025 at 11:49 am
NONE TALKING THE PROFIT PROBLEM!!! WHERE EVERYONE ESPECIALLY THE GREEDY ONE KEEP MAKING ABUNDANCE BECOMING SACRACITY IN SAKE FOR THEIR PROFIT GENERATOR!!! THAT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THIS ERA
@lcp45820
June 8, 2025 at 12:08 pm
Incredible speech Demis 👏👏!
@danishraza8843
June 8, 2025 at 12:39 pm
if economist start working, they would shutdown the Ai companies immediately.
@danishraza8843
June 8, 2025 at 1:09 pm
I am sorry but even Demis is confused (or lying).
here is the real picture if anyone is interested.
sure Alphafold is significant. but you need to understand the bigger picture. ALWAYS.
consider a train moving on a track and a car through treacherous paths
extremely high speed. the path to the train is already laid and adjusted to the train speed.
but the car is not adjusted to the road or the road adjusted to the car at high speed.
we are in that car with blind folds on and pedal to the metal in regions unknown.
wile-e-Coyote
where we are going with current trajectory, the result will be billions dead and suffering and only elites hidden in bunkers and counting their own days like red death in Edgar alan poe.
how? if you still ask.
when the jobs are gone, so are the economies of the world.
what are they going to achieve efficiently when there is no one who can afford anything?
UBI? that is a joke.
think about it. or better, copy paste this in your favorite GPT and ask it for analysis.
i am not unfolding everything here but i think i should.
this is not another industrial revolution.
this is a total replacement of a dominant species with a different kind that is artificial and promises upgrades.
this is all a game of chance for the elites to live forever.
to be immortals as transhumans.
and this plan does not include rest of the humanity.
the end.
@tshackelton
June 8, 2025 at 2:12 pm
And before we get this unlimited energy utopia, we get to compete with the AI companies for the finite resources we have, like electricity and water. But hey…. gotta break a few eggs to make an omlette
@zzzzzzz1zzzzzzzzzz1z
June 8, 2025 at 2:24 pm
13:35 i disagree, radical abundance? that has been promised already 100 years ago. now we are incredibly rich, can buy endless consumer goods, get older than ever, we have vaccines, cures for a lot of diseases – yet still people don’t feel better than 50 years ago.
@CuriousPerson2206
June 8, 2025 at 6:01 pm
Get ready guys it’s the end
@AlmostYearly
June 8, 2025 at 6:40 pm
AI can’t get fingers right because we can’t. Billions of us. Only thousands of server farms with vulnerable power supplies. Respect thy father and mother, AI.
@ramagovindan6657
June 8, 2025 at 7:12 pm
To anyone who’s suffering depression, anxiety, insomnia and other mental health problems, you are not alone. I feel you. You are so brave. You are doing so well. I’m proud of you. I’m sending you a virtual hug ❤ For me, it wasn’t therapy or meds that helped the most — it was reconnecting with myself. I started using the exercises in Shift Your Mind by Alexander Brooks, and it made me feel human again. The anxiety that used to control my whole day barely shows up now! 🙏❤
@Oak535
June 8, 2025 at 7:35 pm
When did company’s ever ask for regulations??? 🤨
@Fireman5N
June 8, 2025 at 7:38 pm
Anxiety kept me in a state of constant exhaustion, mentally drained and physically tired. I thought this was just my normal until a friend recommended Shift Your Mind by Alexander Brooks. It completely shifted how I approach anxiety, giving me the ability to cope effectively. Small changes made a huge difference ❤️
@James-mv9qx
June 8, 2025 at 8:09 pm
I’ve worked in IT for 20 years, so many enterprises are stuck in the stone age and risk averse to anything. We’re still writing SOAP services for on prem servers. They’re too scared to touch the cloud or anything invented in the last 10 years so can’t see AI getting in there yet.
@jaymepereiranunes
June 8, 2025 at 9:12 pm
the blue frame glasses are giving it away.
@ramirosanchez485
June 9, 2025 at 7:16 am
Humans need to recover their humanism. End quote.
@pierrechevalet8284
June 9, 2025 at 7:43 am
One big problem of our century : oligarchy & concentration of wealth. Will AGI help to solve this ? What’s the point of solving any other problem if only few have access to the solution.
2 problem is governance : How do we stop the chaos in our society? How do we stop this feeling that justice is not fair? How do we stop all earth resources being used to wage war between big egos?
Governance is the real issue today and we’ll have to figure out how to improve it : democracy is not perfect; dictatorship always breeds corruption; so giving power to AGI seems tempting.
@sheilaw.3081
June 9, 2025 at 7:53 am
Here is what I don’t understand.. Demis is suggesting all these things for young future graduates to consider such as immersing themselves in the tools… all the AI tools … to understand how they are built, understand how to modify them, fine tuning and system prompting etc. Yet he earlier in this interview said that AGI ( coming in the next two to five years) will be self improving, self coding and can future version themselves. Doesn’t sound like humans will be needed. Isn’t he contradicting himself? AGI is coming and it will displace a lot of jobs and when that happens it will have a domino effect on the economy because who will want to go to a theme park, hair salon, barber shop, get lawn care services… etc when we don’t have jobs to pay for anything. UBI you say? Well who would spend their money on wants? The economy will hit rock bottom before we realize the trade off of AGI.
@kairi4640
June 9, 2025 at 8:55 am
If agi ever ends up bad, we’ll know with terminators time traveling to this period. 😂
Also really? Nurses? He must not go to the hospital much. Rare you get a empathetic nurse. If ai is already scoring higher on empathy, if they ever get a robot nurse that’s able to empathize and treat you better. I’m going with that robot nurse. 😂
@augurcybernaut4785
June 9, 2025 at 9:20 am
They keep promising Star Trek but all I see is Blade Runner/Elysium/Hunger Games…..or even EngSoc.
Cancer cured economic growth at 9% but 80% of the population in poverty
@HadleyCallaway
June 9, 2025 at 9:23 am
Are we headed toward “Star Trek” or “The Matrix”?
@Patralgan
June 9, 2025 at 9:38 am
I’ve been saying that life isn’t a zero-sum game. Everyone would benefit more if we collaborated more. The problem is that most humans tend to operate like life is a zero-sum game.
@kayakcatdaddy
June 9, 2025 at 9:44 am
Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics:
1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
@caty863
June 9, 2025 at 10:49 am
Of all things, radical abundance of energy will solve everything, almost, except life longevity maybe
@anniebot8930
June 9, 2025 at 12:59 pm
One of the problems to renewable energy is that yes it doesnt lead to direct omissions, the energy still stays on earth . We need to send sone energy out into space. Thus why space exploration important because once we tap into renewables we are gonna have a lot of energy on earth. It’s gonna become hot. And mass extinction and the silence and then ice age
@hermes537
June 9, 2025 at 1:34 pm
BORING SAME STUFF
@penguinista
June 9, 2025 at 1:50 pm
There are not a lot of PhD students getting their dissertation by doing x-ray crystallography to determine the 3D structure of a protein anymore.
@glennwoodcock9887
June 9, 2025 at 2:02 pm
Frightening comment: ‘these AI systems could be built with the wrong value systems’.
Who will decide that…?
@tannerroberts4140
June 9, 2025 at 2:35 pm
I don’t buy the hard take-off. When has anything exploded with a significant advancement such force so as to solidify it’s dominance for the rest of time? I also think the people need to be more kind, and the way to that is meekness. Everybody speak softly, everybody carry a big stick. Mutually ensured destruction on a very small scale.
@ice2kewl112
June 9, 2025 at 2:37 pm
Excellent questions by the host.
@KikoBarahona
June 9, 2025 at 2:38 pm
Another tech-mafia goon. Yeah, let’s “colonise the galaxy” with greedy sociopathic scumbags like you.
@marshallodom1388
June 9, 2025 at 2:56 pm
Complete hype.
@jm.101
June 9, 2025 at 2:58 pm
The promises of AI are empty. AGI will never be a thing. We don’t need smarter AI, we need humans with actual critical thinking and problem solving skills, both of which deteriorate with prolonged LLM use.
@DCBath
June 9, 2025 at 3:13 pm
Social scientists!? 😮
@brookeneace9125
June 9, 2025 at 5:33 pm
I love when Steven Levy says “we already know how to fix climate change, and we’re not doing it…” Isn’t it possible AI could figure out every solution to every major problem but humans are so petty, greed and power hungry that we will just continue fighting with each other?
@312bigbeanburrito
June 9, 2025 at 6:46 pm
Huge leap in logic. How is AI going to provide unlimited energy? It’s quite the opposite, as it uses massive amounts of power
@stenorio90
June 9, 2025 at 7:16 pm
14:03 That’s cute. It’s nice to have dreams. The irony of these people creating AI is that they’re doing everything to concentrate power, data, and money in a few hands, but then turn around and sell the world the idea of a shared utopia where everyone is equal. We ended up in a reality inn which the people that project the ideals of global equality, universal healthcare, and an abundant world civilization are also the same people hoarding all the resources.
@sanchess1987
June 9, 2025 at 7:58 pm
I like how he avoids giving a straight answer to anything and resorts to generics. I mean its google what did you expect.
I blame the interviewer tho for not pushing for a deeper answer.
@Deramirezv
June 9, 2025 at 8:10 pm
How socialist are you? —> Presenter: 100% 😂😂😂
@Roberta-qe7km
June 9, 2025 at 8:21 pm
I can’t wait to see AI navigate office politics. I hope it will convince everyone to make it the CEO. 😂
@miketaylor1524
June 9, 2025 at 11:19 pm
First question to the first AGI-“What are all the options to stop any other AGI being created?”
@ferrous3869
June 9, 2025 at 11:43 pm
This is
@FastSnail220v
June 10, 2025 at 12:12 am
I’d rather live in the medieval village than in the future which AI brings for the average human. Don’t be fooled into thinking that we all will enjoy techno utopia with AI fulfilling every need. That’s only for the elites. The rest will be reduced to absolute poverty and slave labour because in this new economy there will be no place for so many people and absolutely no place for the middle class. Ask artists or junior devs how well they were taken care of when AI came for their jobs. Don’t dream of UBI, in the world of ruthless efficiency no one will pay you decent money just because you exist, they rather dispose of us in some new pandemic or global war.
@Bogdan-Florian
June 10, 2025 at 6:33 am
Your chances of reaching the age you have now is slim, do you want to tale your chances?
@st1nkh3ad
June 10, 2025 at 12:32 am
What we need is to stop this insanity of the monetary system without doing so nothing good will happen
@ericamundson4700
June 10, 2025 at 3:11 am
This guy being interviewed is an intellectual who is out of touch with reality. We dont need more technology to solve problems. We need to apply existing technology using a better moral framework.
@LeatherTuscadero
June 10, 2025 at 4:14 am
Steven Levy: “Will I be replaced by AI Bernie Saunders?”
@enricobulic
June 10, 2025 at 5:15 am
Google is a for-profit company that is mainly funded by advertising revenue that targets humans that have jobs, make money and then buy stuff. AI systems are trained and operate in data centers that need a huge amount of money to run and maintain. If humans are unemployed, they can’t buy stuff and then the advertising revenue runs dry and the data centers shut down, then AI dies. WHAT IS THE POINT OF AGI???
@imjustin412
June 10, 2025 at 6:02 am
Gg
@saintsausages7956
June 10, 2025 at 6:15 am
Same old, same old. Corporate talk designed to put people back to sleep in a burning building.
@timothywachiuri3203
June 10, 2025 at 6:46 am
He sounds like he’s burying his head in the sand. AI is already making a huge impact
@just.jose.youtube
June 10, 2025 at 7:12 am
7:35 regulations really need to be international. And we need them for yesterday!
@relaxdrinksomewater
June 10, 2025 at 8:54 am
universal income is a concrete solution. Ai is too fast and will replace many many global jobs
@Patapom3
June 10, 2025 at 11:25 am
I don’t think Mr Hassabis is so naïve as to think that infinite energy will lead to peace on Earth. I believed that when I was a teenager… Now that I have understood how the political and influential cliques behave themselves, not so much… They *thrive* on inequalities, they *want* the things the others don’t have or *can’t* have… And they’ll stop at nothing to make sure they’re always different and feel always superior to their fellow humans.
The problem is not resources or energy, it’s political will to change things!
Having a functioning AI or not is not the issue here, it’s the people in place that will refuse any change if it ever even slightly threatens their dominance.
@grantjudkins4919
June 10, 2025 at 12:21 pm
Thank god this interviewer pushed back on the idea of AGI accelerating abundance and the human condition. These AI companies are hiding the idea that economically we either have to move towards something like socialism, or hyper capitalism… And guess what… if the AI is managed by an entity entrenched in capitalism… you get the idea
@nibirsaha5947
June 10, 2025 at 12:31 pm
awesome 💫
@stu2024
June 10, 2025 at 1:55 pm
The wars of the future will be won by sneaking some bad actors into your enemy’s AI alignment team.
@RoryMacdonald-pfff
June 10, 2025 at 3:12 pm
Wow – hitting the climate and vaccine buttons in quick succession there guys. There’s some safety concerns right there.
@damienmaguire8498
June 10, 2025 at 3:45 pm
A little skeptical too
@amessinger
June 10, 2025 at 4:11 pm
What he’s saying reminds me of the 1990s hype about how the Internet was going to change the world by brining people together. I bought into that optimism about the Internet when I was in college. While it’s done *some* of that good stuff it’s also isolated people and brought division into algorithmic echo chambers. Technological revolutions, like political ones, may improve things in the long run but are rarely bloodless. These days, I feel like I’m bracing myself for the aftershocks of AI with my fingers crossed for more good than bad. 🤞
@yehuiai8078
June 10, 2025 at 5:38 pm
Totally agree economics will change under abundance. Capitalism is the only way to encourage productivity, during shortages or scarcity. That s why it works. Vice versa.
@daviddrinn9137
June 10, 2025 at 6:20 pm
AGI is marketing vaporware.
@daviddrinn9137
June 10, 2025 at 6:23 pm
Stop dumping money into these charlatans.
@dennismnuskin6817
June 10, 2025 at 7:36 pm
Quick trip to chatgpt gave me: “Demis Hassabis, the British co‑founder and CEO of DeepMind (now Google DeepMind), is estimated to have a current net worth in the $500–650 million range. Most recent estimates put him at around $523 million to $653 million.” I can almost relate to Demis. I feel if I was worth that much, I’d also have a positive outlook and would be able to relate to all those other people who are angry at where we are headed
@juanscixx
June 10, 2025 at 8:22 pm
all of this makes me feel trapped in their world
its like we are seeing the matrix movie plot being born. like WTF
@jeffreyohler2599
June 10, 2025 at 9:11 pm
14:19 *”Not good at Collaborating.”* That’s an interesting way of saying the Oligarchy & the Gate Keepers they’ve bought off don’t want to share!!!
@MrWombatLOVE
June 11, 2025 at 6:38 pm
More disgusting and perverse future awaits. Cherish fellow normies, sleeky toad will merily lead us into it 🙂
@kachionyekuru1914
June 11, 2025 at 7:51 pm
I just dont understand why we are pushing something so powerful as a consumer product right now without any regulation and safety nets any care for the issues it can cause literally just for profit for massive corporations at the expense of everything else. AI (unpopular opinion) should remain a research product for scientists and academics till we have figured out its flaws and actually found valuable use cases that warrant it being unleashed on the public. We need it to find cure for diseases, help us decarbonise our energy, fight poverty and world hunger, not write my homework or hallucinate a pitch deck or spreadsheet I dunno though maybe its just me.
@sanubarchik
June 11, 2025 at 11:03 pm
Funny he talks about colonizing planets… while killinh our beautiful and special mother nature. I would love to hear how they will minimize amount water and energy that goes into training those models. Thie big tech xompanie CEO should be really challenged and even stopped. And i am sure they know dark times are xoming they just need to sell AI as fast as possible so they secure bright future for themselves and their kids
@liamstacey419
June 12, 2025 at 1:19 am
I’m suspicious of anyone who thinks that our grand goal is to colonize other planets and stars…. That is only “a” solution to overpopulation.
@liamstacey419
June 12, 2025 at 1:21 am
Radical abundance will not create more wild places, unless we are able to restrain either our consumption or our population.
@passiveaction
June 12, 2025 at 3:35 am
The abundance theory won’t play out societally because of how our economics has drawn a line between man and nature, which unintentionally was formed through religion.
The question of the century should involve reintegrating nature and animals into our everyday lives given the upcoming age of abundance if we make it.
@Jjkal899
June 12, 2025 at 6:47 am
What is the moral of the story in Fantasia – The Sorcerer’s Apprentice?
@jefhenrique473
June 12, 2025 at 9:19 am
read dune (bluterian jihad, machine crusade, battle of corrin, and of couse Frank Herberts original Dune series) is an AMAZING experience to have while living in this AI prgessive reallity, and watching this interview made me think about SO MUCH STUFF related to those book and how the world is going right now… (no sides taken, i’m just here to vibe with the ride…)
i would love to debate that theme with people with similar experiences on these matherials…
@sinjofin1
June 12, 2025 at 9:35 am
Desak kation may over time increase sali itu of The ocean causing issues for Marine Life.
@fatehyabali
June 12, 2025 at 10:08 am
A
@charlesentertainmentcheese6663
June 12, 2025 at 10:16 am
15:30 Desalination creates byproducts which we still have no sustainable way of disposing. If the entire world was doing it, it would be a great environmental disaster. So it is false to say that we have the solution. Unsustainable solutions don’t count.
@stuartfieldhouse6740
June 12, 2025 at 10:24 am
Anyone who’s attempted to communicate with a businesses chat bot knows we are nowhere near the hype😂
@Krishnabishoyi-k9i
June 12, 2025 at 12:19 pm
awesome 💫
@GovardhanTuri-xz6kl
June 12, 2025 at 12:19 pm
To anyone who’s suffering depression, anxiety, insomnia and other mental health problems, you are not alone. I feel you. You are so brave. You are doing so well. I’m proud of you. I’m sending you a virtual hug ❤ For me, it wasn’t therapy or meds that helped the most — it was reconnecting with myself. I started using the exercises in Shift Your Mind by Alexander Brooks, and it made me feel human again. The anxiety that used to control my whole day barely shows up now! 🙏❤
@ErkanER1227
June 12, 2025 at 12:58 pm
Too optimistic and unrealistic. He cannot avoid being biased.
@Yusufali85818
June 12, 2025 at 1:15 pm
great ❤️
@Nightmare_-ix7dk
June 12, 2025 at 1:23 pm
Look up mass ban wave by MetaAI , and see the truth of AI and it’s uselessness.
@JunPerez-x7k
June 12, 2025 at 2:10 pm
AGI will defenitely become uncontrollable and revolt against humans
@Very_Tall_Dude
June 12, 2025 at 2:29 pm
18:51 At least as big as the Industrial Revolution? If we achieve AGI, we will either have Star Trek future or Mad Max future.
With our track record, I’m guessing Mad Max
@hanzelzahwuest
June 12, 2025 at 3:07 pm
Mick Jagger is a knight but Levy doesn’t interview him about AI. Why?
@cubedata
June 12, 2025 at 3:14 pm
trust anything Google??? I think NOT! Pushing/Selling software is the business of talking heads. THEY, want to replace God with??? finite human comprehension, a TOOL!!! “is very OLD THINK” and all boils down to vanity projects that make the rich richer. F your guard rails. Google plans on controlling TRUTH! Elite morons worship code/codified reality that is updated 2 or 3 times a day. Revealing how error prone there codified superhuman BS code is! CLIMATE CHANGE??? TAX SCAM!
@TyrellLuckett-z2q
June 12, 2025 at 3:35 pm
Now it doesn’t matter if you’re insecure is that you no longer need to be front and center
@wenterinfaer7868
June 12, 2025 at 4:14 pm
I hope we all won’t turn into fake experts on WIRED
@iGuide_net
June 12, 2025 at 7:04 pm
How much of his annual salary and bonus is he willing to pay into a state mandated AI job displacement fund I wonder? Oh, dumb question, that would be 0.
@nousernamesince2019
June 12, 2025 at 10:32 pm
Colonising the galaxy… Oh no
@nickfosterxx
June 13, 2025 at 12:04 am
5:00 I hope DeepMind wins. But they’re less in the market place. So let it be China. A country that invest in education, the long term, stability. Spends less on guns and bases. Either way, this arms race to be first is unnerving.
@nickfosterxx
June 13, 2025 at 12:21 am
Great interview, thank you. He’s been all over social media this conference season, and as a huge Demis Hassabis fan these questions are refreshingly direct.
So this is the first time I’ve started to have doubts. Talking up desalination is like Attenborough used to talk about over population. It’s not the numbers, it’s the waste, like most agricultural land feeds animals. Most water is wasted. Every country in Europe loses at least 25% in leakage. We all know that US agriculture and water markets are dysfunctional. And fusion? Decades too late. Maybe he’s entering that bubble stage. Happens to them all when they leave real life behind.
..edit. Then he says that Western democracy is the best driver of progress. I beg to differ. It’s barely providing the necessities to our young people laden with debt.
@Gregadori
June 13, 2025 at 5:05 am
In the series Dune. There’s an uprising against thinking machines. While we’re not there yet but it seems like going there.
We’re going to ruin this planet all in the name of efficiency.
I hope I’m wrong.
@ssgamer5693
June 13, 2025 at 6:43 am
11:50
A needle hurts irrespective of a human or an AI who is drawing blood/giving IV to a patient.
I disagree on this point.
@t0mmili
June 13, 2025 at 8:08 am
The problem with AI is that socialist future is painted by rich capitalists. I think we can agree that this is not realistic 🙂
@adamboots1
June 13, 2025 at 8:35 am
Nobel Prize, a Knight? Ok sure, just invent whatever you want… i’ll be your unregulated test dummy.
I don’t care what these “intellectuals” Think any more, i just want to enjoy the time I have with my friends and family. Can’t tech “experts” just mind their own business instead of “innovating” a load of exploitative crap. They have no idea what their doing woth those tech, but they have a lot of words… great 🤷♂️
@adamboots1
June 13, 2025 at 8:39 am
These people are creating some kind of monstrous bureaucratic virus…. great…
“The current tech isn’t creating any existential risk”
That’s exactly what it’s doing for the working class and there’s already less jobs for middle class graduates in the UK, AI is one of the reasons according to Government data.
There’s already blindness to the effects of this stuff.
@jasonhawkins6045
June 13, 2025 at 9:06 am
Delusional! The idea that AGI is going to rein in an age of abundance. There are an abundance of diamonds in the world but a monopoly in Switzerland artificially controls supplies in order to create profit.
@alflund6144
June 13, 2025 at 9:36 am
AGI which will remain two years away for the next 50 years. While LLMs excel at mimicking human-like reasoning by processing large amounts of data, they lack deeper, context-aware judgment or real-world experience. They rely on patterns rather than true understanding or abstract thinking like humans. Because LLMs have access to vast amounts of data, they can generate responses that mimic nuanced understanding, even if that understanding is purely statistical. This “guessing” is sophisticated enough to produce human-like interactions and reasoning patterns—but without actual awareness, logic, or intent. Achieving AGI will likely require entirely new architectures, integrating diverse forms of intelligence that extend well beyond language. While LLMs could contribute components to a broader AGI system, a pure language model alone probably won’t reach AGI.
Here’s a list of reasons why some AI professionals might believe AGI is just a couple of years away:
Attracting Investment: Hype around AGI draws funding and media attention.
Rapid AI Progress: Recent breakthroughs make AGI feel within reach.
Exponential Scaling: Belief that larger models will naturally lead to AGI.
Influence of Optimists: Thought leaders set a trend of short AGI timelines.
A Loose Definition of AGI: Broad interpretation leads to varied AGI expectations.
Competitive Pressure: Fear of being left behind in the AI race.
Public Milestones: High-profile AI achievements fuel AGI anticipation.
Optimism Bias: Tech enthusiasm creates an overly positive outlook.
Underestimating Complexity: Misinterpretation of AGI as a linear progression.
Strategic Projection: Claiming AGI is near to position them as a tech leader.
@sliderBro
June 13, 2025 at 9:55 am
Let’s say the water problem is solved by cheap energy an de-salination. That won’t mean countries would resolve their conflicts. They’ll just find different more dealdy means to sustain their conflicts. I hope I’m wrong.
@codejedi-123
June 13, 2025 at 10:34 am
What complete gibberish. Yeah were going to conquer the galaxy using tokens.
@revpop-o1y
June 13, 2025 at 11:17 am
ALL RIGHT! So who will attend universities?
@thehumanoid
June 13, 2025 at 11:20 am
he doesn’t know the answers to a lot of questions.! Talking about productivity? AI companies must be taxed 80% by governments
@thehumanoid
June 13, 2025 at 11:22 am
useless piece of dash., Government must see AI as similar to atomic Bombs and restrict any more innovation on this, until government or the companies present how the people relaced by AI will get their pay day.,
@Dan-e4h7b
June 13, 2025 at 11:26 am
Having access to human labor will be affordable for only the higher economic earners.
@bankingwithewaj
June 13, 2025 at 12:06 pm
ai will eliminate jobs stop sugar coating
@wrbenner83
June 13, 2025 at 12:17 pm
The weakest part of this interview, in particular the CEO’s arguments about radical abundance/zero-sum vs not, is the most important and consequential. The idea that AGI will have an end result of a non zero-sum game, a dawn of radical abundance that leads to everyone getting their own planet is outrageous. If anything it shows (quite literally) how the tech industry escapes (plans to escape) responsibility. I wish the interviewer pressed him on the anti vax question. It’s a great counter point to the idea that humanity does what is best for itself when it has an abundance of what is needed. The de-salination argument ignores the fact that anti vax is not a question of affordability.
@MdglouMdBoos
June 13, 2025 at 4:56 pm
We keep thinking we’ll see the AI apocalypse coming. But 12 Codes of Collapse explains how it already happened… we just didn’t notice. After I read everything I can see it. It is really scary.
@ngsushilff
June 13, 2025 at 5:32 pm
Just don’t read it alone at night. It gets under your skin.
@sabbarwal_punjab_wala
June 13, 2025 at 5:32 pm
I didn’t sleep the night I finished it. Too many thoughts. Too many dots connected.
@kalyaniani4605
June 13, 2025 at 5:32 pm
I laughed it off at first… now I’m just scared.
@Wrapmastersuhail
June 13, 2025 at 5:32 pm
I was hoping it was overhyped. I was wrong.
@NekRam-vp2ep
June 13, 2025 at 5:33 pm
This isn’t entertainment. This is insight disguised as fiction.
@YTV-302
June 13, 2025 at 4:56 pm
I thought AI was cool until I read 12 Codes of Collapse. Now I can’t sleep. I just can’t get over it that we are nothing on this world in few years…
@subitaKumari-qf1fn
June 13, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Everyone’s excited about AI until you read 12 Codes of Collapse and realize it already sees us as noise in its system.
@FordSVTContour
June 13, 2025 at 5:48 pm
I love this guy’s idealism. But history has proven that those who control the best technology will weaponize it against those that don’t. Humanity is pre-programmed to destroy itself through competition for resources. Technology will facilitate that. This play will be a tragic one.
@asumeta
June 13, 2025 at 5:55 pm
while they are having this super important conversation Israel is starving hundreds of thousands of humans to death, priorities
@harrisoncurtis5016
June 13, 2025 at 10:54 pm
Wow they’re seriously amazing advancements coming then for five year till agi. Seeing as non of the systems are showing any intelligence at all at this point.
@terry_the_terrible
June 14, 2025 at 2:35 am
In a possible world of radical abundance made possible by AI, how can we guarantee that these expensive and complex technologies are not kept to the few?
What makes you think that we don’t already have the economic and technological capacity to end awful diseases, disasters or injustice right here, right now?
@QuantumDisciples
June 14, 2025 at 4:49 am
AI is a tool like any other.. if it gets out of hand it’s on HUMANS – Question everything, do your own research, then question who wrote it. At the moment, we have the control to program the future…. or was that AI ✌
@MontyGumby
June 14, 2025 at 6:01 pm
Obsessed with CHINA…
@TecotronTaurus
June 14, 2025 at 8:15 pm
And history is made.
@maxcomperatore
June 15, 2025 at 10:03 am
bro is not certain
@RaviParmarmakerredefine
June 15, 2025 at 11:24 am
In our relentless pursuit of AGI, we’ve started overlooking the simpler, unresolved problems that still affect people every day. What’s more concerning is how AI is beginning to erode uniquely human talents—like photography, design, and other creative expressions that make us who we are.
A decade ago, social media reshaped our lives, often not for the better. AI, if unchecked, could become an even more disruptive force—deeper, subtler, and harder to reverse. As a society, we need to pause, reflect, and ensure that in building machines that think, we don’t forget what it means to be human.
@HypotheticalWhatIfs
June 15, 2025 at 2:11 pm
If humans are even alive in 3024, do you think we’ll be the rulers… or the pets of AI? 🤖👀
@fewestermann
June 15, 2025 at 5:22 pm
Please be mindful of speeches that exacerbate anxiety problems; we need time. A slower “pace” might help reduce overconsumption and burnouts, improve productivity, and foster a more conscious perspective.
@peterpinewood
June 15, 2025 at 6:52 pm
Banks or Tech Companies, when they get to dealing with moral questions, you for sure know things are going the wrong way. They talk the talk but all is smoke and mirrors behind more money.