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@NeostormXLMAX
September 20, 2024 at 7:32 am
democrazy is an error and contradiction in itself even the ancient greeks knew of the fallacy
@simonhart8457
September 20, 2024 at 7:59 am
This is a comment you should elaborate on. Without explanation it is not more than some letters imo
@SUNNofODIN
September 20, 2024 at 12:15 pm
Error is a contradiction of ancient fallacy event the democracy knew of the Greeks. See mom I can assert things as well
@FirstLast-gl2lw
September 20, 2024 at 7:41 am
Remove hate, add tolerance, equals peace?
@userANKHZERO
September 20, 2024 at 7:43 am
Try to solve 0/0 = eroor and not one but the other number up divide bottom with same number become result one
Example 1/1= 1 …10/10= 1 ……1 million / 1 million= 1
But why 0/0= error and the one an chosen one only …YOU CAN NOT GIVE RESULT SAME AND EQUALTY RESULT ONE ….WHY … DEMOCRATS ! ? SO LETS WE MAKE ELECTION AND FAIR GAME. BY TOTAL ALL HUMAN WHAT THE ANSWER FOR THAT. .
MY NAME ZERO = O
I AM ACTIVIST TO BRING THIS CASE ON GLOBAL WORLD ORGANISATION AND MAKE MULTY SUE ON EDUCATION WORLD GLOBAL MATHEMATICS ORGANISATION ..FOR THIS .
I JUST WAN TO HAVE. .. LAST NOBEL VALUE OF ZERO NUNBER …
MY NAME ZERO
@OneForAll42
September 20, 2024 at 7:47 am
🙏 Thank you, Sam Wang 🙏
For the knowledge and helping us logically understand how Democracy “should work”. With how corrupted it has become, we NEED some form of Revolution 🌍☮️
@VincentVonDudler
September 20, 2024 at 7:52 am
Top -4 primaries are (pick-1 primaries). They’re garbage.
He makes a very short mention of how primaries should be run (with Approval voting).
Redistricting should be done with ungameable shortest splitline algorithm to end *all* shenanigans (for good or bad)
But the real solution isn’t even mentioned STAR Voting. Cardinal method are much better systems over ordinal.
As an electoral reform advocate I’m glad these places have banned RCV.
Ranked Choice Voting is a truly bad system in practice and math and if this guy is an expert he would know that.
Imo we shouldn’t have primaries. We just need a cardinal ballot (Approval or STAR) for a general election with a wide field of candidates. This has many benefits that aren’t even mentioned as problems in this video – like money in politics. This is one of the least informed electoral reform TED talks I’ve watched.
@MichaelBerthelsen
September 20, 2024 at 12:24 pm
Why is ranked choice voting bad, exactly? The people who would otherwise have their vote ignored get to recast their vote, so every single person gets to have a functional, effective vote.
@VincentVonDudler
September 20, 2024 at 12:47 pm
@@MichaelBerthelsen Real world implementation is terrible. He even says, “Top 4 Primary” in Alaska. This is a mitigation system of one of the flaws of RCV because the ballots expand exponentially as the number of candidates increases. It’s also a terrible mitigation for several reasons: each voter can only choose to support one candidate in the primary just like FPTP. Historically primaries have far lower turnout than the general. That means that anyone that misses the primary will not be able to express their full political support to any candidate that was knocked out. That’s just one issue. Alaska could have chosen to use Approval Voting to run their open primary and it would be far less bad. But as I said that’s just one flaw. RCV also doesn’t do away with the spoiler effect. There’s a great video called, “How IRV Betrays Your Favorite Candidate” that explains the Center Squeeze Spoiler Effect of RCV which happens every single time you have three candidates and the centrist gets eliminated. I have more flaws and reasons why cardinal systems are far better but I’ll wait for any follow-up questions you might have.
@VincentVonDudler
September 20, 2024 at 12:56 pm
@@MichaelBerthelsenhere’s just another quick one- RCV doesn’t allow voters to express their full political support all at once. And it’s fairly intuitive to understand you can only support your first choice until that first choice is eliminated. It makes much more sense to aggregate everyone’s full political support at once. RCV is a very poor voting experience. Imagine ranking 32 flavors of ice cream, keeping that list in your head and putting it into that candidate x rank grid ballot. Insanity. Now imagine an alternate system where you give your favorite flavor a score of 5, least favorite a score of zero and then score the last 30 with respect to those where equal ratings are permitted. It’s a fairly easy mental task. There’s also a lot more information that can be gleaned from the elections resultant data about the electoral preferences of voters. Anyway again my list of RCV’s flaws is still not exhausted, but I need to get back to work.
@VincentVonDudler
September 20, 2024 at 12:59 pm
@@MichaelBerthelsen here’s just another quick one- RCV doesn’t allow voters to express their full political support all at once. And it’s fairly intuitive to understand you can only support your first choice until that first choice is eliminated. It makes much more sense to aggregate everyone’s full political support at once. RCV is a very poor voting experience. Imagine ranking 32 flavors of ice cream, keeping that list in your head and transcribing it into that candidate x rank grid ballot. Insanity. Now imagine an alternate system where you give your favorite flavor a score of 5, least favorite a score of zero and then score the last 30 with respect to those where equal ratings are permitted. It’s a fairly easy mental task. There’s also a lot more information that can be gleaned from the elections resultant data about the electoral preferences of voters. Anyway again my list of RCV’s flaws is still not exhausted, but I need to get back to work.
@VincentVonDudler
September 20, 2024 at 8:27 pm
@@MichaelBerthelsen I’m at my computer and I’m tempted to bring up my other flaws of RCV but it doesn’t appear that you are interested. :]
It all comes down to RCV’s:
– Bad Voting Experience
– Bad Math
Why implement it when you can have…
– Good Voting Experience
– Good Math
with STAR Voting?
@Emogeta
September 20, 2024 at 8:19 am
Issue is the common person is uneducated and follows feelings instead of reason.
@LongbranchOlivetti
September 20, 2024 at 8:26 am
*s
@shaon6022
September 20, 2024 at 8:29 am
I’m Japanese high school student.
TED help to learn English speaking and listening.
So,I want to try to listen every day!
@tienlyba7526
September 20, 2024 at 11:47 am
wish the luck be with u
@amediarts
September 20, 2024 at 8:39 am
Now It’s time to reconstruction of democracy system 🎉
@amediarts
September 20, 2024 at 8:43 am
Election System should be without parties ❤
@Fusselwurmify
September 20, 2024 at 9:29 am
how? representatives would need to form alliances to get majority on issues. call these alliances parties, and you’re back to square one.
@theuniversedoesntcare
September 20, 2024 at 6:09 pm
@@FusselwurmifySelf Trust-Bust.
@naturalbodybulding
September 20, 2024 at 8:44 am
You are the great 👍
@nnozz1373
September 20, 2024 at 9:32 am
Looks like samwang knows a lot about maths
@alonbinyamin
September 20, 2024 at 9:49 am
Democracy is barely functional. We stopped trying to improve and find a better system.
Democracy is the best form of government we (humanity) designed so far. But that doesn’t mean it’s any good. I wouldn’t want to go back to other forms of governance from history, but there is a perception that Democracy is amazing and there is no need to move past it. It’s absolutely not. It’s a deeply flawed system that just barely not collapses completely.
@MichaelBerthelsen
September 20, 2024 at 12:30 pm
I’m gonna butcher a Winston Churchill quote here:
‘Democracy is the worst form of government except all the others.’
Basically, democracy is the least bad, but still trash.😅
@SunLogic1973
September 20, 2024 at 10:04 am
Can math help “Democracy?” If we ban the donor class of lobbyists from paying the politicians to look the other way while the donors regulate themselves then yes math can help democracy.
@diAx007
September 20, 2024 at 10:08 am
Democracy in any form and on any mathematical principles is useless as long as decision-makers do not have truthful information about the things they vote about and do not have the qualifications to understand it.
@gerardoaguilar6933
September 20, 2024 at 10:22 am
No
@theuniversedoesntcare
September 20, 2024 at 6:16 pm
Yes.
@peterp5099
September 20, 2024 at 12:08 pm
Given that the implementation of policies in the US matches a plutocracy closer than a real democracy, what exactly is the point of stabilizing and saving that system? Why not just let it fall apart, then maybe build a better democracy from scratch?
@MichaelBerthelsen
September 20, 2024 at 12:23 pm
What will the US and the world look like during and soon after the total collapse…?
@Bryanhaproff
September 20, 2024 at 12:48 pm
Gerrymandering, Electoral College, Lobbyism AKA Legalized Bribery, When did any of you think this was a Democracy? We live in Capitalism 100% Bought and Paid For.
@Betweoxwitegan
September 20, 2024 at 3:52 pm
It’s a democracy, just a flawed one. Do you think democracy in Ancient Greece was better? 😂
@Bryanhaproff
September 20, 2024 at 4:08 pm
@@Betweoxwitegan Ancient Greece didnt have Jeff Bezos.
@theuniversedoesntcare
September 20, 2024 at 6:15 pm
@@Bryanhaproff…Jeff Bezos, and Lex Luthor are never in the same room.
@Betweoxwitegan
September 20, 2024 at 7:39 pm
@@Bryanhaproff Maybe not but it did have a lot of slaves, I’d say that’s a higher level of inequality than present day USA. Women, slaves and non citizens weren’t allowed to vote, wealth was tied up in land primarily which was owned by an elite minority, climbing the ladder was outright impossible and there were no safety nets, etc, Ancient Greece was objectively worse than present day USA.
@duythanhphaminh4134
September 20, 2024 at 12:50 pm
01:49 Essential functions of democracy
03:01 Simulation of voter behavior
04:44 The urgency for reform
06:00 Effects of a third-party candidate
08:04 Voter systems and independent committees
09:40 Impact of primary reforms
11:00 The role of math in democratic reform
Summary by GPT Breeze
@annaynely
September 20, 2024 at 3:07 pm
Resourced based economy all over the world. The venus project.
@nicolecrust9975
September 20, 2024 at 5:06 pm
This is *so great*. If we want to understand a complex system, the only way is to model it. As Princeton Professor Sam Wang describes, there are strong parallels to politics and brains.
I deeply appreciate the clarity Prof. Wang is delivering, and the parallels he is drawing.
@theuniversedoesntcare
September 20, 2024 at 6:14 pm
I am crying right now. He really thought it out.
@privatebryan1924
September 20, 2024 at 8:18 pm
How does math solve targeted assassinations?
@privatebryan1924
September 20, 2024 at 8:22 pm
Make this guy a Chief Data Scientist, Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP), Senior Advisor on Policy and Analytics, Economic Advisor or Head of the Council of Economic Advisers, Advisor on Electoral Reform, ANYTHING BUT THESE CLOWNS